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Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD

 

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ramasan

Oct 30, 09 13:56

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Alcohol worse for you than marijuana, Ecstasy, or LSD.

Moral and political reasons aside, the research shows that alcohol and tobacco are more harmful to you than quite a few of the less socially accepted drugs.
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Boudreaux

Oct 30, 09 13:57

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm partial to those wonderful pain pills...Doc won't let me have them very often at all.

"you know, aero trumps training ;-) "
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(This post was edited by Boudreaux on Oct 30, 09 13:59)


Joe_H

Oct 30, 09 14:09

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

what about coors light? that's basically water


cerveloguy

Oct 30, 09 14:13

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

Saw a police officer on TV last week claiming that weed always leads to harder drugs. Must be true if the police say so. :-)

Old news. Why weed isn't legalized or at least de-criminalized is beyond me.

This quote from the article says it all:

"Richard Garside, director of the CCJS, based at King's College London, said, 'Professor Nutt’s briefing gives us an insight into what drugs policy might look like if it was based on the research evidence, rather than political posturing and moralistic positioning.'


(This post was edited by cerveloguy on Oct 30, 09 14:19)


gbot

Oct 30, 09 14:23

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To:
Alcohol worse for you than marijuana, Ecstasy, or LSD.

Moral and political reasons aside, the research shows that alcohol and tobacco are more harmful to you than quite a few of the less socially accepted drugs.
On the other hand LSD during a workout is definitely more risky than even 3 or 4 beers.


ramasan

Oct 30, 09 15:32

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [gbot] [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To:
In Reply To:
Alcohol worse for you than marijuana, Ecstasy, or LSD.

Moral and political reasons aside, the research shows that alcohol and tobacco are more harmful to you than quite a few of the less socially accepted drugs.
On the other hand LSD during a workout is definitely more risky than even 3 or 4 beers.

i am shitfaced with 4 beers, and i have no experience what tripping on LSD is like, but i think i would be pretty unsafe riding around on 4 beers.

im definitely not trying to say that it would be better to drop acid instead of drinking 4 beers, but who the hell would work out after drinking that much anyways?
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gbot

Oct 30, 09 15:35

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

Good point. Also upon further reflection I think actually getting clipped in while on acid might prove to be basically impossible.


Chewbacca

Oct 30, 09 15:36

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

what about beer the night before a workout, it has carbs.


KINGMurphy'sLaw

Oct 30, 09 15:38

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

D - all of the above. ;-)

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OneGoodLeg

Oct 30, 09 16:17

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [ramasan] [In reply to] Can't Post

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i am shitfaced with 4 beers, and i have no experience what tripping on LSD is like, but i think i would be pretty unsafe riding around on 4 beers.

im definitely not trying to say that it would be better to drop acid instead of drinking 4 beers, but who the hell would work out after drinking that much anyways?

That much? It's like anything else, you gotta train more, son. 4 beers is like a warm-up...

And (not in response to anyone's post here, just knowing some of the common arguments) for the logic-challenged cop-types who reason that all the hardcore junkies started out w/ weed, so therefore weed leads to harder drugs, what about all the folks (yes, they do exist) who like a beer and a puff now & then yet manage to stay the hell away from coke and heroin? It's like the basic "If it's raining, there must be clouds in the sky" does NOT logically equate to "If there are clouds in the sky, it must be raining." Tards.


stoptriassletes

Oct 30, 09 16:37

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [cerveloguy] [In reply to] Can't Post

Weed is always amazing after a workout. The difficult thing is waiting until the end.


jonny bonk

Oct 30, 09 16:52

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [stoptriassletes] [In reply to] Can't Post

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Weed is always amazing after a workout. The difficult thing is waiting until the end.

...as long as you can wait until after. If you try & sneak a toke in before, it can kill the motivation and lead straight to nutrition. (are m&m's a food group?)
LSD on the other hand, once you manage to get clipped in & get up to speed everything gets very blurry...kind of like riding thru a Monet painting.....or so I've been told.
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roadhouse

Oct 30, 09 17:24

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [jonny bonk] [In reply to] Can't Post

in Venice Beach there is a doc shop where anyone and i mean anyone can walk in from the sidewalk and see the doctor ( yes, a real one) and talk about your aches and pains and lack of ability to sleep and walk out with a prescription for the best damn medical mary jane in the world, grown and raised in the hills of Humble County.

how do i know? i just know.

now x and all other halucinogens and methaphetemines i don't mess with... any longer. i'm a big fan of what mary jane can do for the soul and it always will do. not a pothead at all, i barely smoke maybe once to three times a weAk and many times before a ride and definatley before a run. and i always ride and run much faster after a smoke and can ride a lot longer, as if my life depended on it but oh wait, there's more. it does.

hey, at least i admit who i am. it's not a flaw, not to many others either.

my two cents or in this case, my half ounce. :)
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.


jackmott

Oct 30, 09 17:35

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [cerveloguy] [In reply to] Can't Post

all the policemans experience would lead him to think this because he never meets the millions of normal americans that do weed and don't steal crap or beat up people or turn to meth and on and on

that said, better to have a once a day beer habit than once a day X or LSD habit in the long run!!!

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Saw a police officer on TV last week claiming that weed always leads to harder drugs. Must be true if the police say so. :-)

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roadhouse

Oct 30, 09 17:48

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [jackmott] [In reply to] Can't Post

the sad thing about the people that use drugs heavily is that they don't realize just what is happening to them. it's like a doorway to pandora's box and that path is all they'll be ever to know as real. it happened to me but than i got into running and cycling as my means to the norm of reality and what it took to be someone as i desperately wanted and fully realized that i needed out. it was and is my way out and that justifies my wanting to finish an ironman, to be one, to overcome.

i'm on the right track, that much is for certain.

it' so easy to talk about drug addicts but you won't ever understand them unless you've been one and i wouldn't consider myself and addict but someone with the addictive personality rather and it just took and took and took everything i've ever had or wanted of myself. now i'm addicted to the other side, this side.

that's Preston in Houston, Tx buTt you all already know this right? right.


btw, cocaine is what i abused along with meth here and there. Los Angeles is a mutha phucker.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

(This post was edited by roadhouse on Oct 30, 09 17:51)


roadhouse

Oct 30, 09 18:08

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [roadhouse] [In reply to] Can't Post

and look at what drugs have done to me, they make me spell like a stupid American. at least i fit in. :)

i've been here though, done this all before, a few times. had to learn how to walk all over again, literally, as i'm doing again with the lack of riding and full on running.

the other side, as you all will bear witness too, is nothing short of miraculous. and don't say i didn't say so.


rant over...for now. :)

have a good halloween slowtwitchers.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.


cerveloguy

Oct 30, 09 18:14

Post #17 of 32 (492 views)
Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [roadhouse] [In reply to] Can't Post

" people that use drugs heavily is that they don't realize just what is happening to them."

So true, but the same can be said about the legal drugs - alcohol and tobacco.

My main point in my earlier post is that somebody saying weed always leads to a higher drug addiction is like saying that having your first beer will always lead to alcoholism. It will happen to some people in both cases, but not to the majority.


applesauce

Oct 30, 09 18:16

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [roadhouse] [In reply to] Can't Post

For me mary J was a gateway to other stuff because I was always told drugs were bad and they were gonna kill me. When one didnt I threw the whole slew of crap I was fed out and went for it. Looking back it was a dumb thing to do and I was better off listening because I do really feel it was a gateway drug for me. Maybe the message isnt wrong but the approach to it doesnt seem to work. I did take a good bit of pot with me on a camping trip and I must say it was fantastic and elevated the whole experience. Pot + exercise was pretty fun. Monday I had 4 beers and 20 hot wings while watching the game. Went running afterward, wasnt as bad as I thought it would be.


cerveloguy

Oct 30, 09 18:18

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [jackmott] [In reply to] Can't Post

"better to have a once a day beer habit than once a day X or LSD habit in the long run!!! "

100% agreement there. The biggest problem I'd have with any of them is driving. At least with alcohol you can do a breath analysis. AFAIK, there is no easy test for weed or other drugs except taking a blood sample? Is this correct?


roadhouse

Oct 30, 09 18:22

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [cerveloguy] [In reply to] Can't Post

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" people that use drugs heavily is that they don't realize just what is happening to them."

So true, but the same can be said about the legal drugs - alcohol and tobacco.

My main point in my earlier post is that somebody saying weed always leads to a higher drug addiction is like saying that having your first beer will always lead to alcoholism. It will happen to some people in both cases, but not to the majority.

the first thing you said i 110% agree with. the second is a matter of personal timing and arrangement of life. for me it's completely the other way around, the fact that weed WILL lead to harder drugs. for me it's the tapering off of them. anything can be said about anything but again, unless you've been there you have no right to talk.

and that is not meant as in YOU as in Cerveloguy doesn't have the right, not at all but YOU as in anyone who hasn't been there so nothing personal in any way. the outsiders opinions to myself and in this case i think it is and has and always has been and will be, um, amusing to say the least.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

(This post was edited by roadhouse on Oct 30, 09 18:23)


roadhouse

Oct 30, 09 18:32

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [roadhouse] [In reply to] Can't Post

a little more insight, i never used to eat as in food. with drugs, well, you all have seen the pictures of people who are on hard drugs. the only food they require is the drug as the main dish and the beer and the cigarettes as their side orders. and the damage that that does to a human body and mind and soul is beyond magnificent in it's destructional ability. and i've got over fifteen years of stupid to make up for.

now weed makes me think. i feel shame, i feel hollow and most importantly, i feel hungry. :)
hell, the fact that i feel anything is a miracle in itself but all three of those things are voids in which i feel the need to fill.

now that's just me and my two cents but i thought you all should know. and thanks for having and keeping a civilized conversation and an open mind to all you guys. i'm not proud of it all but it's the truth...and i will be proud, that's why i'm here.

thanks.
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cerveloguy

Oct 30, 09 18:51

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [roadhouse] [In reply to] Can't Post

"the fact that weed WILL lead to harder drugs"

As WILL drinking your first beer lead to alcoholism?

I'll admit to having tried a lot of vices in my younger days of my late teens and early 20's which my case was back in the late 60's and early 70's when these things were considered the cool thing to do, but none of them ever lead to an addiction. Nowadays all I'll enjoy is wine, beer and the occassional rum and always in moderation.

I understand we're you're at having seen it first hand and personally think there is such a thing as "addictive personalities". I'll let the psychologists handle this one, but this can also apply not only to chemical stimulants but also to sex, computer games, gambling, or even triathlon training. An old friend from H.S. died several years ago of addiction problems. Breaks my heart, but he just didn't/couldn't know when to stop. The rest of us are fine.


FastandFun

Oct 30, 09 19:09

Post #23 of 32 (409 views)
Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [cerveloguy] [In reply to] Can't Post

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Saw a police officer on TV last week claiming that weed always leads to harder drugs. Must be true if the police say so. :-)

Shit... I've smoked pot, ingested magic mushrooms, taken LSD and MDMA (Ecstasy)... all that shit led me to triathlon...

No pink font folks.... but that stuff was many years ago....
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roadhouse

Oct 30, 09 19:27

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Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [FastandFun] [In reply to] Can't Post

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In Reply To:
Saw a police officer on TV last week claiming that weed always leads to harder drugs. Must be true if the police say so. :-)

Shit... I've smoked pot, ingested magic mushrooms, taken LSD and MDMA (Ecstasy)... all that shit led me to triathlon...

No pink font folks.... but that stuff was many years ago....
i like your sig. it applies to so many of those 'experts'. whoopsie! was that the right use of quotation marks? i'm confused.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.


roadhouse

Oct 30, 09 19:39

Post #25 of 32 (371 views)
Re: Beer after workout? Stick with Weed, X or LSD [cerveloguy] [In reply to] Can't Post

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"the fact that weed WILL lead to harder drugs"

As WILL drinking your first beer lead to alcoholism?

I'll admit to having tried a lot of vices in my younger days of my late teens and early 20's which my case was back in the late 60's and early 70's when these things were considered the cool thing to do, but none of them ever lead to an addiction. Nowadays all I'll enjoy is wine, beer and the occassional rum and always in moderation.

I understand we're you're at having seen it first hand and personally think there is such a thing as "addictive personalities". I'll let the psychologists handle this one, but this can also apply not only to chemical stimulants but also to sex, computer games, gambling, or even triathlon training. An old friend from H.S. died several years ago of addiction problems. Breaks my heart, but he just didn't/couldn't know when to stop. The rest of us are fine.

no, a first beer will not amount to you being an alcoholic unless it beer or alcohol or anything is SEEN by the user as a means of individual fullfillment. in other words, self neglect.

i understand what you are saying as well cerveloguy and i don't think we're far off the ghorba pasturized beaten trail from one one another, not at all.

and for me it's not about triathlon training or training in any way as one could might attest to the oppospite of that when it comes to all the others storefront font when it comes to me but rather a discipline, a cause, a worthiness, a life well thought of and spent, a life well contributed, a life well sacrifised, a life nonetheless.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

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