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Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...???

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slowtwitcher09

Nov 9, 09 10:42

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Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...???	Can't Post

I'm in the market for a new roady, as a second bike, to do some group rides, hills, and the ocassional hilly-twisty tri. I currently have a P2-SL which is awesome, but limitating in some ways. My budget is $1,400-$1,900 and would prefer something like a good alluminum frame with 105 or Ultegra. Looking for a solid frame to last me at least 5 years, so I would prefer to buy a new bike and make the guarantee worth in case anything happens... Any suggestions...?

Thanks!

jackmott

Nov 9, 09 10:48

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

look for a used frame that turns ya on

then troll bonktown, classifieds, ebay, and probikekit for deals

I built this up for around $1000 total with ultregra

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What is good in life? - To crush your enemie's dreams, see them dropped behind you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
Sunglasses: http://www.framesdirect.com/sunglasses
Tri Gear: http://www.atctrishop.com
Cheap Disc Wheel - http://www.wheelbuilder.com Tire Crr Data - http://www.biketechreview.com

KEAU

Nov 9, 09 10:49

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Brand new Caad 9 with 105 10 speed can be had for around $1000. Great bike and you wont cry over it in a crit crash.

Keau

Konovalovas 7:2,53-91s
www.bartape.net

msuguy512

Nov 9, 09 10:51

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

keep an eye on performance bike

they had a SL1 for around 2g with all their specials

the caad9 looks real nice too though

roadhouse

Nov 9, 09 10:56

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [jackmott] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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look for a used frame that turns ya on

then troll bonktown, classifieds, ebay, and probikekit for deals

I built this up for around $1000 total with ultregra

if that bike wasn't a cervelo it'd be perfect.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

Tom A.

Nov 9, 09 11:01

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [roadhouse] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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look for a used frame that turns ya on

then troll bonktown, classifieds, ebay, and probikekit for deals

I built this up for around $1000 total with ultregra

if that bike wasn't a cervelo it'd be perfect.

Is this better? (Besides, I don't understand the mutual exclusiveness between Cervelo and perfection)

roadhouse

Nov 9, 09 11:05

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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look for a used frame that turns ya on

then troll bonktown, classifieds, ebay, and probikekit for deals

I built this up for around $1000 total with ultregra

if that bike wasn't a cervelo it'd be perfect.

Is this better? (Besides, I don't understand the mutual exclusiveness between Cervelo and perfection)

NOT.AT.ALL. now every single component you have on that sh!t paint job is as i see it, venomous in it's beauty. the frame, not so much. now i like your theme keeping, kinda, but if those parts were to be on my specialized tarmac, well, art would be the end result. and with myself on it? perfection!!

ha.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

JimmyDeuce

Nov 9, 09 11:15

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

You should be able to find a Cervelo S1 for that money.

Tom A.

Nov 9, 09 11:18

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [roadhouse] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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I find a couple of things funny about your statement above:

First, the paint job is actually part of what I like the most about that frame. I'm a fan of the "panel" look...to each his own, I guess ;-)
Second, putting all that stuff on a Tarmac would actually make me slower...so why would I want to do that? (Even though I get a team discount through Specialized, I still haven't seen fit to replace this "classic"...there's a reason for that...well, at least until Mark Cote comes up with an "aero road bike" for the big S.)

cerveloguy

Nov 9, 09 11:26

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

The best deals in that price range are second hand. But for new bikes:

Check out Kestrel Talons on ebay. A guy discounts them online.

Also Neuvation is now offering full bikes. Great deals for the money, just like the wheels. http://www.neuvationcycling.com/bicycles.html

klizz

Nov 9, 09 11:28

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

The CAAD9 4 with 105 retails for $1499. If you bump up to the CAAD9 4 it retails for $1799 plus you get full carbon fork with carbon steerer, SRAM Rival (which some say is better than Ultegra), BB30 and probably one of the best aluminum frames you can buy in this range.

I recently got the CAAD9 4 in matte black (BBQ) and am very happy with it. Check it out.

roadhouse

Nov 9, 09 11:35

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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I find a couple of things funny about your statement above:

First, the paint job is actually part of what I like the most about that frame. I'm a fan of the "panel" look...to each his own, I guess ;-)
Second, putting all that stuff on a Tarmac would actually make me slower...so why would I want to do that? (Even though I get a team discount through Specialized, I still haven't seen fit to replace this "classic"...there's a reason for that...well, at least until Mark Cote comes up with an "aero road bike" for the big S.)

yes, your soloist is a wind cutting time traveling machine, no doubt and those parts are definately supposed to be on your stab-me-in-the-eyeballs-repeatedly-now-and-forever-and-ever-more-Amen paint job, i said on MY tarmac.

i just want some new parts and those could look good.

i'm not a fan of that particular bike is all and i'm not sure when it was supposed to become apparent to myself that your opinion of bikes was supposed to negate mine. was it? i didn't get the memo.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

Tom A.

Nov 9, 09 11:45

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [roadhouse] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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i'm not a fan of that particular bike is all and i'm not sure when it was supposed to become apparent to myself that your opinion of bikes was supposed to negate mine. was it? i didn't get the memo.

Hey...you're the one who jumped in here and stated your unsolicited opinion about jackmott's bike that except for it being a Cervelo, it would be perfect. Don't go lookin' at me...

So...besides the paint job (which admittedly is easily changed) what else about that frame don't you like so much that you're not a "fan"? Just curious.

I dunno, the fact that the same frame (with only minor changes) is still being sold today after 8 years on the market seems to imply that the Vroomen-White boys did something right with that design...

jackmott

Nov 9, 09 11:46

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Can't Post

tom I want to see you do an aero weenie buildup on a bamboo bikes

the contrast of philosophy and materials would be neat =)
----
What is good in life? - To crush your enemie's dreams, see them dropped behind you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
Sunglasses: http://www.framesdirect.com/sunglasses
Tri Gear: http://www.atctrishop.com
Cheap Disc Wheel - http://www.wheelbuilder.com Tire Crr Data - http://www.biketechreview.com

Chris G

Nov 9, 09 11:46

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Is this a "show me your metal soloist thread"? Here's mine. Have less than 1900 into it with full ultegra. Well not counting the rear wheel in that pic anyway...

Tom A.

Nov 9, 09 11:50

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [jackmott] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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tom I want to see you do an aero weenie buildup on a bamboo bikes

the contrast of philosophy and materials would be neat =)

Can bamboo be formed (heat/steam formed?) into aero shapes? ;-)

roadhouse

Nov 9, 09 11:54

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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i'm not a fan of that particular bike is all and i'm not sure when it was supposed to become apparent to myself that your opinion of bikes was supposed to negate mine. was it? i didn't get the memo.

nothing other than the paint. just fugly.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

roadhouse

Nov 9, 09 11:56

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i'm not a fan of aluminum bikes with carbon forks, it looks cheap. acts it too.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

jackmott

Nov 9, 09 11:57

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Can't Post

that is optional, extra credit

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tom I want to see you do an aero weenie buildup on a bamboo bikes

the contrast of philosophy and materials would be neat =)

Can bamboo be formed (heat/steam formed?) into aero shapes? ;-)

roadhouse

Nov 9, 09 11:58

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [roadhouse] [In reply to]	Can't Post

but than again, it was a $1000 buiild. can't beat that. at least mott's was.
It's not about the bike, it's just along for the ride.

slowtwitcher09

Nov 9, 09 12:16

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [roadhouse] [In reply to]	Can't Post

This feedback is really great, thanks!
The pics are great too.
I have to say that I'm inclined towards the S1, I have no complaints about my P2-SL, although the CAAD9 seems really tight.
Are there any differences between these two (S1 or CAAD9) that I should know? (aside from price, aero down-tube, reversible seat post) ?

jackmott

Nov 9, 09 12:24

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

nothing that really matters for a road bike.

the seat tube on the S1 will tend to creak if not cared for periodically..price of an aero seat tube.

I suggest going with the one that speaks to your inner aesthetic sense. That gives you the most motivation to get on and ride.

for me thats an aero weenie frame, but not for everyone

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rickn

Nov 9, 09 12:26

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [slowtwitcher09] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I would consider the CAAD 9 the number 1 option.
Followed closely by the Spooky skeletor, but that may be hard to hit in your budget.
You could get a used s1 but it won't have a warranty and it really isn't any better than the other 2 bikes mentioned.
That said,, those 3 aluminum bikes are better or equal to 95 percent of the carbon bikes made. No reason to ever upgrade any of those 3 frames.

slowtwitcher09

Nov 9, 09 12:36

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [rickn] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Thanks, good point about the warranty, since I plan to keep it for a long time and buying used/ebay always has some degree of risk...
Aesthetics aside the CAAD9 does seem like the best deal so far...

klizz

Nov 9, 09 13:06

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Re: Best road bike deal $1400-$1900...??? [roadhouse] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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i'm not a fan of aluminum bikes with carbon forks, it looks cheap. acts it too.

Just curious to why you feel this way, My carbon fork is pretty much indistinguishable from my frame on my bbq caad9 4 unless you tap on it. Also, many ppl complain that aluminum is too stiff or uncomfortable on long rides and I thought a carbon fork would dampen road chatter and increase feel/performance?

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