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Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)?

 

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TriCeratops

Jun 28, 09 14:15

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Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? Can't Post

I dropped my chain at mile 90 of IM CDA and mangled the front derailluer hanger on my P3-SL. At this point, the FD hanger is bent, broken, flimsy, and hanging on by a thread. Can a frame builder weld a new FD hanger onto the frame? Am I going to have to convert my tri bike to a fixie or single speed?

Mike Sparks


I have competed well, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.


Trash Talk

Jun 28, 09 15:02

Post #2 of 15 (528 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [TriCeratops] [In reply to] Can't Post

Pics?



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cyclenutnz

Jun 28, 09 16:01

Post #3 of 15 (487 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [TriCeratops] [In reply to] Can't Post

email a pic to an ally builder like www.rocklobster.com and get an opinion from the horses mouth.


Kentiger

Jun 28, 09 16:39

Post #4 of 15 (453 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [TriCeratops] [In reply to] Can't Post

Can it be fixed..yes..will it be easy..hell no. Would I trust this kind of fix to anyone but a skilled frame builder..absolutely not. If you're not feeling up to the challenge you could always strip the parts and sell me the frame cheap. What size is it?


cdw

Jun 28, 09 16:53

Post #5 of 15 (439 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [TriCeratops] [In reply to] Can't Post

Definately find a frame-builder closeby that can fix it. They will know how to line it up so it will work well again.

Chad


TriCeratops

Jun 28, 09 17:08

Post #6 of 15 (421 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [cdw] [In reply to] Can't Post

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Definately find a frame-builder closeby that can fix it. They will know how to line it up so it will work well again.

Thanks Chad. I'll give Steve Rex a call on Tuesday.

Mike Sparks


I have competed well, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.


TriCeratops

Jul 3, 09 16:10

Post #7 of 15 (273 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [Kentiger] [In reply to] Can't Post

Kentiger,

I saw your response in another thread regarding repairing a cracked aluminum frame. You mentioned heat treating the frame after the weld job. A custom frame builder I talked to said the same thing (by the way, they don't have that kind of equipment, and he said that really only big time bike manufacturing plants do). Is heat treating equipment something that very few frame builders have access to? Is heat treating the bike an expensive proposition? Are we talking $500? $1000?

Mike Sparks


I have competed well, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.


cyclingamy

Jul 3, 09 16:47

Post #8 of 15 (255 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [TriCeratops] [In reply to] Can't Post

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I dropped my chain at mile 90 of IM CDA and mangled the front derailluer hanger on my P3-SL. At this point, the FD hanger is bent, broken, flimsy, and hanging on by a thread. Can a frame builder weld a new FD hanger onto the frame? Am I going to have to convert my tri bike to a fixie or single speed?
Because I am a frequent chain-dropper myself and fear damaging my own bike...i have to ask, how did you damage your bike so significantly 'just' by dropping your chain? Really just an honest question, not trying to be a smart-ass or anything.


GregX

Jul 3, 09 17:04

Post #9 of 15 (241 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [TriCeratops] [In reply to] Can't Post

depending on the extent of damage, it MAY be possible to remove the old hangar, file the area smooth and then rivet on or screw on (via drilled and tapped holes) a completely new hangar.




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TriCeratops

Jul 3, 09 17:53

Post #10 of 15 (217 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [cyclingamy] [In reply to] Can't Post

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In Reply To
I dropped my chain at mile 90 of IM CDA and mangled the front derailluer hanger on my P3-SL. At this point, the FD hanger is bent, broken, flimsy, and hanging on by a thread. Can a frame builder weld a new FD hanger onto the frame? Am I going to have to convert my tri bike to a fixie or single speed?
Because I am a frequent chain-dropper myself and fear damaging my own bike...i have to ask, how did you damage your bike so significantly 'just' by dropping your chain? Really just an honest question, not trying to be a smart-ass or anything.
Mike Sparks


I have competed well, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.


planetsbr

Jul 3, 09 18:46

Post #11 of 15 (178 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [GregX] [In reply to] Can't Post

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depending on the extent of damage, it MAY be possible to remove the old hangar, file the area smooth and then rivet on or screw on (via drilled and tapped holes) a completely new hangar.

My thought would be a non braze on derailleur, if the clamp fits.


jackmott

Jul 3, 09 18:48

Post #12 of 15 (175 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [planetsbr] [In reply to] Can't Post

you must not be familiar with the p3 aluminum

=)

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depending on the extent of damage, it MAY be possible to remove the old hangar, file the area smooth and then rivet on or screw on (via drilled and tapped holes) a completely new hangar.

My thought would be a non braze on derailleur, if the clamp fits.
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TriCeratops

Jul 3, 09 18:56

Post #13 of 15 (169 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [planetsbr] [In reply to] Can't Post

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My thought would be a non braze on derailleur, if the clamp fits.
If only . . . . :-(

Mike Sparks


I have competed well, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.


GregX

Jul 3, 09 19:05

Post #14 of 15 (161 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [planetsbr] [In reply to] Can't Post

a good idea, but that won't work on an alloy p3.




Where would you want to swim ?


KendallF

Jul 3, 09 19:31

Post #15 of 15 (141 views)
Re: Is There Hope (for my P3-SL)? [TriCeratops] [In reply to] Can't Post

Just find a good TIG welder, and let him weld another one on there. The hanger is small, non-structural, and in the middle of a shaped structure that IMO won't require heat treating post-weld. I have done several small repairs like this on aluminum frames with no issues.

   
 
 
 

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