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marathoner31

Nov 1, 09 9:12

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Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon	Can't Post

She just got into the top 10. I don't know all the names here. Top American? Awesome.

1. Derartu Tulu, 2:28:52
2. Ludmila Petrova, 2:29:00
3. Christelle Daunay, 2:29:16
4. Paula Radcliffe, 2:29:27
5. Salina Kosgei, 2:31:53
6. Magdalena Lewy Boulet, 2:32:17
7. Buzunesh Deba, 2:35:54
8. Serkalem Biset Abrha, 2:37:20
9. Yuri Kano, 2:39:05
10. Desiree Ficker, 2:39:30

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furiousferret

Nov 1, 09 9:19

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [marathoner31] [In reply to]	Can't Post

2nd American, there are a few others born in Africa with US citizenship in there. Count them and she's 4th...Still Awesome effort.

ilima

Nov 1, 09 9:24

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [marathoner31] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I know Lewy Boulet is a naturalized American citizen. She was on the US Beijing Olympic team last year.

DC Pattie

Nov 1, 09 9:27

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [marathoner31] [In reply to]	Can't Post

What about the guys? Americans finish 1st and 4th. Can't remember that last time that happened at NYC. Meb's career is now complete.

Dave in VA

ilima

Nov 1, 09 9:36

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [DC Pattie] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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What about the guys? Americans finish 1st and 4th. Can't remember that last time that happened at NYC. Meb's career is now complete.

Dave in VA

Yes, it's fantastic. But the men's race has its own thread.

cdViking

Nov 1, 09 9:37

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [ilima] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I'm pretty sure the other thread is for both races...

h2ofun

Nov 1, 09 9:57

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [ilima] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Should this not be in the women's forum?
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidedwardcampbell

ilima

Nov 1, 09 9:58

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [cdViking] [In reply to]	Can't Post

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread

ilima

Nov 1, 09 9:59

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [h2ofun] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Should this not be in the women's forum?

If ridiculous leaps of logic are your thing, SURE!

Record10Carbon

Nov 1, 09 10:02

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [h2ofun] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I bet she woulda won if she had Newtons, Compression socks and dimples on her thighs......

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h2ofun

Nov 1, 09 10:03

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [ilima] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Why? Is there not a women's forum to talk about female things, and a forum to talk about male things? :o)

Dave
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A_Gal

Nov 1, 09 10:42

Post #12 of 29 (2362 views)

Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [h2ofun] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Maybe there should be an idiot forum too...

hgrong

Nov 1, 09 10:43

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Maybe there should be an idiot forum too...

That's the Lavender Room.

sevans

Nov 1, 09 10:57

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [marathoner31] [In reply to]	Can't Post

A friend of mine got 12th place and 4th American woman, I'm stoked!

MdotD

Nov 1, 09 11:24

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Maybe there should be an idiot forum too...

That's the Lavender Room.

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TBinMT

Nov 1, 09 11:33

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [marathoner31] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Outstanding. 10 min. behind the woman with the WR, not bad for a "non-runner." Not an easy course either, the winning times always are a good 5-10 min. off Chicago and London pace. I also read that she didn't even focus on this race until summer. Magdalena is pretty awesome too.

jackmott

Nov 1, 09 11:35

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [TBinMT] [In reply to]	Can't Post

if desiree goes back to tris with this run fitness shes going to be good

i mean she was good already but maybe she could run with chrissie =)
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MarcK

Nov 1, 09 12:13

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [marathoner31] [In reply to]	Can't Post

That's awesome. I wonder if any of the currently active male triathletes have run faster than that?

ericM35-39

Nov 1, 09 12:34

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sevans

Nov 1, 09 12:42

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [ericM35-39] [In reply to]	Can't Post

it won't be long before Chrissie and Mirinda are running 2:39 off the bike... at Kona.

I hope you're kidding.

ericM35-39

Nov 1, 09 12:51

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [sevans] [In reply to]	Can't Post

which is more likely: a 2:39 open marathon girl running with Chrissie and Mirinda off the bike at Kona or Chrissie and Mirinda, and/or the next generation of girls improving 15 minutes off the bike at Kona. Both are unlikely as hell, but if I had to bet I'd put my money on Chrissie and Mirinda.

My comment was outlandish because Jackmott's comment was outlandish.

brentl

Nov 1, 09 15:06

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [jackmott] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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if desiree goes back to tris with this run fitness shes going to be good

i mean she was good already but maybe she could run with chrissie =)

you mean like after the last time she ran a fast open marathon a few years ago?

FJB

Nov 1, 09 15:48

Post #23 of 29 (1296 views)

Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [jackmott] [In reply to]	Can't Post

i mean she was good already but maybe she could run with chrissie , if she didn't have to bike with her first...=)

I fixed it for you.

Fleck

Nov 2, 09 5:53

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Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [ericM35-39] [In reply to]	Can't Post

dude, I love Desiree but she ran 2:39.... in cool, cool weather... it won't be long before Chrissie and Mirinda are running 2:39 off the bike... at Kona.

however, your statement is still correct... if she gets back into triathlon seriously she should be a force to be reckoned with.

The normal conversion at this level from stand-alone marathon to IM run, with a whole bunch of assumptions and a wack of variables all going in the right direction, is about 20 minutes. So this would equate to about a 3:00 IM run. Which is great, but note that the key words above are, "a whole bunch of assumptions and a wack of variables all going in the right direction". No question this is an impressive performance for Ficker. Kudos to her for having a go at it again at this level of competition on this stage in a single sport - it's a bit of a rarity these days for elite level triathletes. How it translates to how she will perform in 70.3 and IM races in the future is hard to know?

I think her 1:14 half marathon and 34 min 10K from earlier this year, are actually more impressive, but many triathletes are obsessed with the marathon, so that is the performance that everyone will fixate on.

Dave Scott told me a few years ago that he thought the run times at the elite level in IM racing were set to drop, but that has not happened. Dave & Co, were running 2:40 off the bike nearly 20 years ago and we have not seen any drops or breakthroughs since then. Same for the women - until Carfrae's run this year.

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uli

Nov 2, 09 6:04

Post #25 of 29 (819 views)

Re: Spoiler...Desiree Ficker at NYC Marathon [jackmott] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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i mean she was good already but maybe she could run with chrissie =)

Running is not triathlon (the whole off the bike running thing).

I know a female runner in the high 2:30s who trains with Chrissie and beats her in running only.
Chrissie is VERY fast off the bike because that's what she trains for. Certainly she could get quicker as a pure runner (I wouldn't even rule out sub2:30), but not now as a triathlete.

(Btw, FWIW, I'd rate a 2:39 in NYC as a 2:36-2:37 on a flat course.)
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