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Ticothunder
Nov 20, 09 15:39
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Tabata Protocol and Time Trial Training
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After every training session for marathon canoe racing, I do a Tabata, (max for 20 seconds, back-off for 10, x 7). Has anyone tried to incorporate this into training for a bike time trial?
Mike Prevost
Nov 20, 09 16:33
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After every training session for marathon canoe racing, I do a Tabata, (max for 20 seconds, back-off for 10, x 7). Has anyone tried to incorporate this into training for a bike time trial?
It would mostly be a waste of time. Tabata is not magic like many uninformed coaches think it is. There are some serious issues with trying to generalize the results of Tabata's study to a time trial effort.
roady
Nov 20, 09 17:04
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After every training session for marathon canoe racing, I do a Tabata, (max for 20 seconds, back-off for 10, x 7). Has anyone tried to incorporate this into training for a bike time trial?
It would mostly be a waste of time. Tabata is not magic like many uninformed coaches think it is. There are some serious issues with trying to generalize the results of Tabata's study to a time trial effort.
I'd disagree with the 'waste of time' part. I think they can be pretty useful, and have seen them have a positive effect on sustainable power. Then again, I think any workout that targets fibers recruited under high power and in a high-overload situation can be useful. I just think it's a matter of how you incorporate that in your training.
I've never heard any coaches refer to them as 'magic', though with what passes for 'triathlon coaches' these days, nothing really would surprise me. It seems that silly news articles are responsible for proclaiming them as 'magic' (you know, 'TRAIN 3 MINUTES A WEEK' and all that...).
Lastly, I think there are 'serious issues' trying to generalize the results of
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study and applying it to real-world training. That doesn't mean the studies are irrelevant or useless though.
IRONwolf
Nov 20, 09 18:31
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it isnt a waste of time, it would go into your fitness bank and that would help. problem with using it for a TT is that a TT is a pretty steady hard effort, tabata is super short with short recovery, it would add to your overall fitness which would help your TT but maybe not specific enough to really do much.
then again, if it is improving your overall fitness then sure. do it. just do your hard steady stuff firrst :)
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Mike Prevost
Nov 20, 09 19:13
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After every training session for marathon canoe racing, I do a Tabata, (max for 20 seconds, back-off for 10, x 7). Has anyone tried to incorporate this into training for a bike time trial?
It would mostly be a waste of time. Tabata is not magic like many uninformed coaches think it is. There are some serious issues with trying to generalize the results of Tabata's study to a time trial effort.
I'd disagree with the 'waste of time' part. I think they can be pretty useful, and have seen them have a positive effect on sustainable power. Then again, I think any workout that targets fibers recruited under high power and in a high-overload situation can be useful. I just think it's a matter of how you incorporate that in your training.
I've never heard any coaches refer to them as 'magic', though with what passes for 'triathlon coaches' these days, nothing really would surprise me. It seems that silly news articles are responsible for proclaiming them as 'magic' (you know, 'TRAIN 3 MINUTES A WEEK' and all that...).
Lastly, I think there are 'serious issues' trying to generalize the results of
any
study and applying it to real-world training. That doesn't mean the studies are irrelevant or useless though.
More useful for a roadie than a TT or triathlete. Tabata protocol has been over hyped. Many are claiming that this is all you need because it produces "superior improvements in aerobic and anaerobic metabolism" compared to steady state exercise. That is essentially what Dr. Izumi Tabata found, but when you consider the context, you understand that this is not necessarily true. Works for a little while, then you plateau and will not improve without adding some volume. Some do not seem to understand this.
In any case, for sustainable power (i.e. 40K TT) I think you would agree that longer intervals would be more beneficial.
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