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Sergio Escutia

Oct 27, 09 13:34

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This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [photo] Can't Post



The position of the carp is not fortuitous I am sure.

Sergio
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Note: English is not my first language. Please read this translated post considering that.




jackmott

Oct 27, 09 13:36

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Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

having spoken with him at length, drag isn't his main concern, he has more complex issues like drag to lift to power RATIOS

not just drag to power ratios

not to mention much higher manueverability constraints
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QuadsofFURY

Oct 27, 09 13:44

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The position of the carp is not fortuitous I am sure.

But I bet the dimple-effect of the scales makes up for it.


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OWEN_MEANY

Oct 27, 09 13:45

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In Reply To:
having spoken with him at length, drag isn't his main concern, he has more complex issues like drag to lift to power RATIOS

not just drag to power ratios

not to mention much higher manueverability constraints

It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple
question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound coconut.


gamebofh

Oct 27, 09 13:49

Post #5 of 29 (2510 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [QuadsofFURY] [In reply to] Can't Post

That looks like a classic lifting body design on the carp to me.

Might even be making it easier. I'm sure that's why we see all
those flying carp. ;)

-Jot


mike_the_man

Oct 27, 09 13:54

Post #6 of 29 (2478 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [OWEN_MEANY] [In reply to] Can't Post

Completely off topic, but shouldn't your posts be in all CAPS Owen? I like the name!

Cheers,

Mike


Kevin in MD

Oct 27, 09 13:54

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Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [OWEN_MEANY] [In reply to] Can't Post

It would be better if two of them used a strand of creeper held under the dorsal guiding feather to carry it.


Tricky Dick

Oct 27, 09 13:56

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Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

if that isn't an "oh shit" moment and look on that carps face, I am not too sure what would be.


bmanners

Oct 27, 09 13:57

Post #9 of 29 (2472 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

Notice how the carp has the open mouth smile like Wellington? That is to optamize O2 intake to the lungs. On another note if lance had fins on his bike imagine what he could do.


TriMike

Oct 27, 09 14:05

Post #10 of 29 (2421 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

I have seen this many times with ospreys during fly fishing trips. They immediately turn the fish into aero postion. The Bald Eagles, our national bird, are too stupid to figure this out and carry the trout sideways. I guess just attacking a difficult situation with brute force is the American way ;-) Another funny thing about the Eagles is that they try to steal fish from Ospreys and will literally snatch from the talons of the smaller bird. Won't comment on any nationality issues with regard to that behavior....


lakercr

Oct 27, 09 14:05

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In Reply To:
Notice how the carp has the open mouth smile like Wellington? That is to optamize O2 intake to the lungs. On another note if lance had fins on his bike imagine what he could do.
Lungs?


tmiles

Oct 27, 09 14:07

Post #12 of 29 (2407 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

seat is too high
needs to close his mouth


bjohn34

Oct 27, 09 14:09

Post #13 of 29 (2376 views)
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Notice how the carp has the open mouth smile like Wellington? That is to optamize O2 intake to the lungs. On another note if lance had fins on his bike imagine what he could do.

That carp looks a little cooked. In my opinion, that's due to the fact that it was swimming using a low cadence.


thetodd

Oct 27, 09 14:10

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You've got it all wrong, the fish caught the Osprey.

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sdmike

Oct 27, 09 14:16

Post #15 of 29 (2323 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [OWEN_MEANY] [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To:
In Reply To:
having spoken with him at length, drag isn't his main concern, he has more complex issues like drag to lift to power RATIOS

not just drag to power ratios

not to mention much higher manueverability constraints

It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple
question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound coconut.
African or European?


bmanners

Oct 27, 09 14:26

Post #16 of 29 (2269 views)
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Hold on.... It's the FINMAN in his new wetsuit...... getting a illegal lift to T1!


cydswipe

Oct 27, 09 15:25

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Cervelo makes birds? :)


Frank Day

Oct 27, 09 15:38

Post #18 of 29 (1982 views)
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In Reply To:


The position of the carp is not fortuitous I am sure.

Sergio
Great picture but if the fish would close his mouth I suspect he would go faster.

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Torps

Oct 27, 09 15:42

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IronRN

Oct 27, 09 17:23

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Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

So does this mean zipp will be putting scales on their wheels
instead of dimples.


AndrewSaar

Oct 27, 09 17:28

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They both have the same look in their eye...love? I think so.

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than to do the wrong thing and be rewarded richly.


Maximus43

Oct 27, 09 17:30

Post #22 of 29 (1705 views)
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Your carp is too high


nujeff

Oct 27, 09 18:16

Post #23 of 29 (1564 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

John Carp riding a Kestrel Talon?...


docfuel

Oct 28, 09 11:13

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Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Frank Day] [In reply to] Can't Post

It helps some air flow thru, so less has to flow around!
It also helps with ventilation
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QRNub

Oct 28, 09 14:05

Post #25 of 29 (880 views)
Re: This guy knows more than anyone here about aerodynamic drag [Sergio Escutia] [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm torn between suggesting he tape over the vent in the front of the fish and noting the similarity to pic's Tom A. posts of himself TT'ing. :-)

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