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Herbert

Aug 20, 08 8:52

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Tom Demerly - no way	Can't Post

I surely thought that Tom Demerly would be the first guy on this forum to upload pictures and bike measurements.

But stunningly I beat him to the punch. Where is Tom? Is he actually busy at the bike shop?

:-)

c.dan.jog

Aug 20, 08 8:54

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Huge. :P
www.fleetfeetchicago.com

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Tom Demerly

Aug 20, 08 8:59

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Fiddlesticks! How do I do it...? I've been wailing away here on a bunch of web features for our own little site and doing my armchair commentary on the Olympics with you in the evening....

I know.... I'm lame.

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/
(NOTE: This poster owns a retail business selling triathlon related products).

swimfan

Aug 20, 08 8:59

Post #4 of 31 (4035 views)

Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I already did before you. Uploaded my pictures, scheduled races and fit measurements.
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I know I can't spell... This is not going to be graded so I don't care about the grammar either...

Herbert

Aug 20, 08 9:13

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Tom Demerly] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Fiddlesticks! How do I do it...?

Go to "view my profile" to the right of "messages" and upload away. It is quite straight forward.

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Fleck

Aug 20, 08 9:21

Post #6 of 31 (3809 views)

Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

It is quite straight forward.

Way too much detail for me. I set the seat height at 76.5cm on a 58cm road bike with something close to a 120mm stem, throw a leg over it and I am good to go! :)

Steve Fleck
steve@nineteenwetsuits.com
http://www.nineteenwetsuits.com
http://stevefleck.blogspot.com

Tom Demerly

Aug 20, 08 9:23

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

You're right- it is very straightforward. Thank you very much- it's an excellent resource!

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/
(NOTE: This poster owns a retail business selling triathlon related products).

Khai

Aug 20, 08 9:32

Post #8 of 31 (3688 views)

Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Fleck] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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It is quite straight forward.

Way too much detail for me. I set the seat height at 76.5cm on a 58cm road bike with something close to a 120mm stem, throw a leg over it and I am good to go! :)

You can admit to using the Cyrille Guimard formula Steve...

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TriBriGuy

Aug 20, 08 9:33

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Hey Herbert....why in the heck can't I find a Talon SL listed for Kestrel. You guys got something against that bike? (besides the fact it ISN'T a TRI bike?)

;-)

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JasoninHalifax

Aug 20, 08 9:37

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

No Cervelo P2SL or Trek OCLV road frames listed

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bpq

Aug 20, 08 9:39

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I left my bikes next to the computer all night and it didn't take a single measurement for me! Is there a macro I have to run or something??? ;-)
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TriBriGuy

Aug 20, 08 9:48

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [bpq] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Hilarious!

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parkito

Aug 20, 08 9:56

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [bpq] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Silly, you're suppose to load the software first!

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Fleck

Aug 20, 08 9:59

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Khai] [In reply to]	Can't Post

You can admit to using the Cyrille Guimard formula Steve...

Khai,

Well good to know I am following one of the greats.

Funny thing was that I could not even find my bike in the Cervelo listing - The Eyre Road!! :)

Steve Fleck
steve@nineteenwetsuits.com
http://www.nineteenwetsuits.com
http://stevefleck.blogspot.com

(This post was edited by Fleck on Aug 20, 08 10:01)

Khai

Aug 20, 08 10:34

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Fleck] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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It's funny (to me at least) that I posted that without thinking... When I started road cycling I used the Guimard formula as well - but nowadays I just do what you described. :p

I'll have to take a look, but I'd be pretty shocked if any of my bikes made the list as well.

When do you get in to town?

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SuperDave

Aug 20, 08 11:12

Post #16 of 31 (3070 views)

Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Fleck] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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It is quite straight forward.

Way too much detail for me. I set the seat height at 76.5cm on a 58cm road bike with something close to a 120mm stem, throw a leg over it and I am good to go! :)

76.5cm seat height on a 58cm? Your bike is too big!

-SD

Fleck

Aug 20, 08 11:12

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Khai] [In reply to]	Can't Post

When do you get in to town?

Not coming out for IMC. I am headed to Chicago for the Chicago Triathlon. Working in the Mission Bay booth at the Expo selling Nineteen wetsuits! :)

Steve Fleck
steve@nineteenwetsuits.com
http://www.nineteenwetsuits.com
http://stevefleck.blogspot.com

fred_h

Aug 20, 08 11:17

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Khai] [In reply to]	Can't Post

[Cyrille Guimard formula]
Wow that is a name I have not heard in a very long time....

Fred.

Fleck

Aug 20, 08 11:22

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [SuperDave] [In reply to]	Can't Post

76.5cm seat height on a 58cm? Your bike is too big!

Possibly. I am built like Phelps - but can't swim like him :)

Very long torso and short legs, with longish arms on a 6'2" body. I have ridden on 56's and they just don't feel right. I have to have way to much seat set-back with a 130mm stem to get the distance I need on the top and I can't find that sweet spot over the BB.

Most 58 cm road bikes fit/feel better.

Steve Fleck
steve@nineteenwetsuits.com
http://www.nineteenwetsuits.com
http://stevefleck.blogspot.com

Khai

Aug 20, 08 11:25

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Khai] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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I'll have to take a look, but I'd be pretty shocked if any of my bikes made the list as well.

Nope:

road - Cramerotti
track - Cramerotti
'cross - Cramerotti
tri - Yaqui
rat - Windsor
fixie - Benotto (hacked & modded)
chopper - Giant (hey - a mainstream brand!)
uni - Torker
mtb - Titus (just a frame for now...)

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Khai

Aug 20, 08 11:37

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [Fleck] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Not coming out for IMC.

Crazy! It'll seem weird not having you rolling down by the Peach in your Hawaiian shirt...

I hope Chicago is good to both you & Nineteen.

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James

Aug 21, 08 14:19

Post #22 of 31 (2382 views)

Re: Tom Demerly - no way [SuperDave] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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It is quite straight forward.

Way too much detail for me. I set the seat height at 76.5cm on a 58cm road bike with something close to a 120mm stem, throw a leg over it and I am good to go! :)

76.5cm seat height on a 58cm? Your bike is too big!

-SD

SuperDave

Aug 22, 08 10:21

Post #23 of 31 (1971 views)

Re: Tom Demerly - no way [James] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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It is quite straight forward.

Way too much detail for me. I set the seat height at 76.5cm on a 58cm road bike with something close to a 120mm stem, throw a leg over it and I am good to go! :)

76.5cm seat height on a 58cm? Your bike is too big!

-SD

http://feltbicycles.blogspot.com/

trukweaz

Aug 22, 08 12:37

Post #24 of 31 (1709 views)

Re: Tom Demerly - no way [SuperDave] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I was thinking the EXACT same thing. I run 76.5 and I ride a 54cm SLC-SL with a 120mm stem

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James

Aug 22, 08 13:01

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Re: Tom Demerly - no way [trukweaz] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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I was thinking the EXACT same thing. I run 76.5 and I ride a 54cm SLC-SL with a 120mm stem

What two of you, Superdave being the other, can't seem to figure out, is that the saddle height on a bicycle is about the least important measurement for picking the right size bicycle, reach and head tube height are the numbers you want to look at. Now maybe you guys are under the impression that all people have the same ratio of inseam to torso, that would explain your reasoning, but this isn't the case.
Something the two of you, Superdave being the other, need to think about, which obviously you didn't, what does his 58 cm bike measure? Is it seat tube CtC, seat tube CtT, is the top tube level or is it sloping, or is the measurement the top tube CtC. I don't know, Do you? No, the only thing you know is his seat height, which tells you very little.
You guys are making blanket statements that his bike is too big, when all you have his is saddle height, sounds a little ignorant to me. But then again, Superdave works at Felt.

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