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nebmot
Jul 2, 09 10:36
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removing glue from carbon tubular rim
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acetone?
goo gone?
what should i use? is this going to be an all day affair?
Bum
Jul 2, 09 10:38
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Re: removing glue from carbon tubular rim [nebmot]
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Why do you want to remove it?
nebmot
Jul 2, 09 10:39
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i just flatted, but i was at my house so, i figured i might as well do it right instead of how i would do it on the road.
Bum
Jul 2, 09 10:43
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Never remove the glue! you want a nice layer of glue on the rim. Just add more.
doug in co
Jul 2, 09 11:28
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Re: removing glue from carbon tubular rim [nebmot]
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goof-off, it's safe on carbon too according to zipp. Acetone will work eventually but it's a lot slower and less toxic, so less efficient. Wear gloves, do it outside, and realize that the rags used may spontaneously burst into flames,
http://www.wmbarr.com/ProductFiles/Goof%20Off%20Citrus%20Liquid%20(2640)%203-20-09.pdf
(the link doesn't work for some reason, cut/paste it instead and it should go).
Took me about 45min to clean a rim which had 4 layers, 3 of which were 4 years old, one ancient.
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nebmot
Jul 2, 09 11:32
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thanks,
the rags might burst into flames? sweet!
you must be able to rub harder than i can, probably years more of practice... =]
hudson
Jul 2, 09 11:33
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Go to a body shop supply and get 3m general purpose adhesive cleaner. I buy the quart can.........
JoeO
Jul 2, 09 12:55
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Re: removing glue from carbon tubular rim [nebmot]
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As someone else here taught me, Jasco/Bix varnish/stain remover -- the Gel kind. I got it at Lowes.
Worked fantastic. Apply, wait 30 seconds, and watch that glue come off easily. Took a few applications to get it all off but elbow grease was not really needed.
CrazyCanuck
Jul 2, 09 13:21
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Acetone didn't do a thing when I tried it... I asked a couple of high-volume Zipp dealers around LA and the consensus was unanimous - mineral spirits. Worked like a charm and safe on carbon. Still requires some rubbing and busy work, but cut through the old adhesive 100 times better than acetone or anything else. YMMV...
nebmot
Jul 2, 09 18:14
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i used a mixure of the recommended products
mineral spirits
goof off
goo gone
to clean it after it was all done
acetone.
I have now glued my first tubular and it wasn't that bad! just hoping i don't have to do that on the side of the road. knock on wood.
thanks to everyone!
Bum
Jul 3, 09 19:32
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Wait, am I missing something here. Are you guys really taking the glue off the rim every time you put on a new tubie?????? Please tell me I read this thread wrong.
nebmot
Jul 3, 09 19:39
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I'm new to tubulars, so bare with me.
If YOU are changing your tires you just put another coat of glue (or 2) on the rim and put the preglued tire on? How many coats of glue to you leave on, before you strip the wheel back to new?
Bum
Jul 3, 09 19:48
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With new rims, I put 3 thin coats of glue on the rims, letting each dry completely before applying the rest. Then one good coat on the tubie (some old timers I know use 2). Let dry. Then put the tubie on. Inflate. Done. When I flat, I pull off the tubie. Some of the glue from the tubie may get left on the rim. Great. I just take a preglued tubie (one coat again) and slap it on. I've never stripped the glue off the rims. That stuf is sacred. For my tri bike, where I might have to make a quick flat change, pulling off a fully glued tubie can be pretty tough. I know some guys who pack an exacto blade with their CO2 and cut the tire in half and pull it off. Personally, I leave about 1.5 inches unglued on the tubie, on the opposite side of the valve. When I flat, I start to work the tire off there. Only disadvantage is that it can occasionally give a awful squeak during riding.
For riding or racing, just bring along a preglued tubie. It will bond well to the glue on the rim. If you have any doubts, try to pull it off when you get home!
footwerx
Jul 4, 09 4:12
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the more glue there is on the rim the slower the wheel will roll.
you really should go for more layers on the tub and less on the rim.
JChapATX
Jul 4, 09 6:00
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you can prevent the rags from spontaneously combusting by NOT disposing of them in an enclosed space, ie. ziploc bag. If you dispose of them in a ziploc or some other recepticle that prevents air flow, it is likely the fumes will accumulate in the bag and could ignite.
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Bum
Jul 4, 09 14:12
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Wrong.
hgrong
Jul 4, 09 14:14
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Wrong.
Really, got any data to back that up?
Bum
Jul 4, 09 16:32
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Wrong.
Really, got any data to back that up?
Nope, nor do you, unless you are going to bring up all that anecdotal crap that was on here a year or two ago. It gets really old listening to some of you guys on ST banter around "facts" about cycling even though you really don't know what you are talking about.
gamebofh
Jul 4, 09 16:40
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Nope, nor do you, unless you are going to bring up all that anecdotal crap that was on here a year or two ago. It gets really old listening to some of you guys on ST banter around "facts" about cycling even though you really don't know what you are talking about.
The problem is there is two of them and one of you, just asserting their opinion. The obvious result is they're both
testicles but you're just a dick.
-Jot
Bum
Jul 4, 09 16:42
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If being correct gets me called a dick, then so be it. Doesn't really bother me though. My statement is true however.
hgrong
Jul 4, 09 16:48
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I have no idea either way. I don't see any advantage to tubulars, and thus, don't bother to use them or experiment on them.
You, however, have made a factual assertion. I don't know if he is right or you are right. But I was assuming that since you were willing to unequivocally state that you are correct, you must have some empirical evidence to support your assertion.
But apparently you are willing to make unequivocal assertions without factual support since you have admitted that you have no data.
gamebofh
Jul 4, 09 17:29
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[citation needed]
-Jot
cyclonehockey21
Jul 4, 09 17:57
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For what its worth Zipp says just put one on the rim then 2 coats on the tubular, applying the tubular during the second coat.
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sppnet
Jul 4, 09 18:00
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This makes little to no sense - where did you see Zipp says this??? If you apply a coat of glue to a tubular just before mounting then you have glue all over you side walls of your wheel.
cyclonehockey21
Jul 4, 09 18:13
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In the manual you get when you buy a rim from them. You wait until the glue is tacky and then apply it.
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