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Factor HANZO TT bike
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This looks pretty great.

https://factorbikes.com/models/hanzo/

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Let me help you out…

https://factorbikes.com/models/hanzo/

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I’m looking forward to seeing the track version. /pink
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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Its hard to see this bike and not think 'well they finally decided to just copy the P5.' The previous Slick TT bike had the bizzarre split down tube which at least made it different to other options but they have clearly decided this time to just follow the heard albeit a few year late. I am not surprised that they reached the same conclusion as other companies on the fastest UCI complaint design for a disc TT bike but it just becomes another extremely expensive variant of a common design.
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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Every time I see a wind tunnel test I just can’t help but think all of these companies are doing a great job marketing the P5. I know they basically have to compare themselves to the P5 for credibility but each time it puts Cervelo top of mind.
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like a great TT bike. Can't imagine who would pick that for tri though unless they release a separate version. And their aero data is laughable. Not only is there zero data aside from one unlabeled chart, but it's not even faster than Cervelo's 10 year old offering across all yaws? I'm assuming p5 does mean p5 and not p5d, but they could clear that up by "showing their work" at least a tiny bit.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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It took them several iterations, but it looks like they finally have a strong TT offering for roadies (I'm sure the factor sponsored riders are breathing a sigh of relief, you could sense the frustration with previous versions). Given the increasing importance of integrated storage/hydration, in addition to positioning; it's hard to see this as a tri bike.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Titanflexr] [ In reply to ]
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Titanflexr wrote:
Given the increasing importance of integrated storage/hydration, in addition to positioning; it's hard to see this as a tri bike.

I don’t think integrated storage/hydration is any more important now than it was before. It’s just more prevalent.
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DFW_Tri wrote:
Titanflexr wrote:
Given the increasing importance of integrated storage/hydration, in addition to positioning; it's hard to see this as a tri bike.


I don’t think integrated storage/hydration is any more important now than it was before. It’s just more prevalent.

It's more important in the sense that a bike w/o integrated storage will have to add external systems (typically with a hit to aerodynamics) that a dedicated tri bike w/integration will not, putting it at a disadvantage in the aero sweepstakes. A decade back when there was a lot less integration, basically all stock bikes would have to take the "load it up for an IM" hit.

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Titanflexr wrote:
DFW_Tri wrote:
Titanflexr wrote:
Given the increasing importance of integrated storage/hydration, in addition to positioning; it's hard to see this as a tri bike.


I don’t think integrated storage/hydration is any more important now than it was before. It’s just more prevalent.


It's more important in the sense that a bike w/o integrated storage will have to add external systems (typically with a hit to aerodynamics) that a dedicated tri bike w/integration will not, putting it at a disadvantage in the aero sweepstakes. A decade back when there was a lot less integration, basically all stock bikes would have to take the "load it up for an IM" hit.


Again, I’m gonna disagree here. I’m quite confident I could set up a bike with after market offerings that is as or more aero than an integrated option. Taping 10 gels to a top tube was never a good option.
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [scott8888] [ In reply to ]
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scott8888 wrote:
Its hard to see this bike and not think 'well they finally decided to just copy the P5.'

there's a good reason for this, if this is the impression you get.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Titanflexr] [ In reply to ]
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what i would say it misses some bosses for bento box behind the stem ... and thats it. with that and behind the seat hydration you can go full IM on it
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Bryancd] [ In reply to ]
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The only red flag for me is the stack system. It is the fork steerer aero cover all in one. So if you miscut or need to go higher if you resell then a new fork is needed...

Not as cheap a fix as scott. As much as I love monopost and the patents around them. Finding a middle ground is nice, but this attachment also seems to require cutting first. So how to dial this in while doing a bike fit?
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [culpritbicycles] [ In reply to ]
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oh god if thats the case that just DOA
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [culpritbicycles] [ In reply to ]
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Doesn't the monopost just slot into the space up front? Basically a seat-tube situation? Why is cutting required?

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:
scott8888 wrote:
Its hard to see this bike and not think 'well they finally decided to just copy the P5.'


there's a good reason for this, if this is the impression you get.

That's what happens when you get smart Canadians to design bikes :-)
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
Slowman wrote:
scott8888 wrote:
Its hard to see this bike and not think 'well they finally decided to just copy the P5.'


there's a good reason for this, if this is the impression you get.


That's what happens when you get smart Canadians to design bikes :-)

factor bikes + linkedin provide the breadcrumbs. funny thing, if you're in the orient you see the fruit of "Giant U" all over the bike industry. it tells you something about a company like giant when you see all kinds of companies and designs that have sprung up from folks trained and mentored at giant. the same kind of thing has happened at cervelo. if you look at all the bikes and brands that have been affected by cervelo engineers and designers you see that what phil and gerard got going way back when was not simply a brand, but a think tank.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [tallswimmer] [ In reply to ]
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tallswimmer wrote:
Doesn't the monopost just slot into the space up front? Basically a seat-tube situation? Why is cutting required?

what you see there, presumably, is the pads at their lowest position. they could go higher, but not lower. what if you want them lower? you cut some of the bottom off of the "seat post". this allows you to get the pads lower, but now you can't go as high as you could before you cut.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:
marcag wrote:
Slowman wrote:
scott8888 wrote:
Its hard to see this bike and not think 'well they finally decided to just copy the P5.'


there's a good reason for this, if this is the impression you get.


That's what happens when you get smart Canadians to design bikes :-)


factor bikes + linkedin provide the breadcrumbs. funny thing, if you're in the orient you see the fruit of "Giant U" all over the bike industry. it tells you something about a company like giant when you see all kinds of companies and designs that have sprung up from folks trained and mentored at giant. the same kind of thing has happened at cervelo. if you look at all the bikes and brands that have been affected by cervelo engineers and designers you see that what phil and gerard got going way back when was not simply a brand, but a think tank.


https://www.bicycleretailer.com/...neering#.YaooJb3MI8E

That being said, I don't see the P5 when looking at the Hanzo. My eyes lie and I'm not trained in first principles :-)
The pictures do not do justice to this bike
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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I also don’t see a P5 disc when I see this bike.
I really like the side fork and seat stays

Did they release a weight?

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
Slowman wrote:
marcag wrote:
Slowman wrote:
scott8888 wrote:
Its hard to see this bike and not think 'well they finally decided to just copy the P5.'


there's a good reason for this, if this is the impression you get.


That's what happens when you get smart Canadians to design bikes :-)


factor bikes + linkedin provide the breadcrumbs. funny thing, if you're in the orient you see the fruit of "Giant U" all over the bike industry. it tells you something about a company like giant when you see all kinds of companies and designs that have sprung up from folks trained and mentored at giant. the same kind of thing has happened at cervelo. if you look at all the bikes and brands that have been affected by cervelo engineers and designers you see that what phil and gerard got going way back when was not simply a brand, but a think tank.


https://www.bicycleretailer.com/...neering#.YaooJb3MI8E

That being said, I don't see the P5 when looking at the Hanzo. My eyes lie and I'm not trained in first principles :-)
The pictures do not do justice to this bike

there are obviously some pretty big differences. the factor really embraces the wideness thesis: the avoidance of interference drag, not only in the fork (that's a widely-deployed paradigm) but in the seat stays (you don't see this very often back there in TT bikes). it's the pursuit bar, head tube, slideable stem, aerobars and pads. that's the similarity.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Doesn’t q factor plus pedal spindle length play into the wide fork thing? As in “if” the legs align with them?

If you run your legs splayed out, will it help at all?
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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milesthedog wrote:
I also don’t see a P5 disc when I see this bike.

I really like the side fork and seat stays


Did they release a weight?


I did not see one
More on the bike here. Some nice comments some STers should consider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03-ngFxtr0
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [tallswimmer] [ In reply to ]
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the monopost us part of the fork. it first slide in the cover, it us the cover, so once your fit, you cut it.
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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burnthesheep wrote:
Doesn’t q factor plus pedal spindle length play into the wide fork thing? As in “if” the legs align with them? If you run your legs splayed out, will it help at all?

couple things to unpack here. the concise term is stance width. the Q + the distance from the pedal shoulder to pedal center = stance width. now, for me, stance width is both a biomechanical and an ergonomic issue, as well as a clearance issue. (my heels hit the chain stay on the drive side, and the crankset). so, for example, let's say that i could show you that lowering your saddle provides a clear aero benefit? would you do so? i feel the same way about stance width. for me, because of my specific issues that are not negotiable, i can't really mess with stance width.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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I imagine they were comparing themselves against the disc P5 and not the rim brake one. I also really want to see a comparison between all the new TT bikes.
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I imagine they were comparing themselves against the disc P5 and not the rim brake one. I also really want to see a comparison between all the new TT bikes.


Yeah, Kiley needs to do another crowd funded test
Not his first priority but would be good

Bikes included?

- Hanzo
- P5disc
- P3x
- new QR
- Argon 119
- new Trek Speedconcept
- specialized shiv tri
- Orbea Ordu

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Every time I see a wind tunnel test I just can’t help but think all of these companies are doing a great job marketing the P5. I know they basically have to compare themselves to the P5 for credibility but each time it puts Cervelo top of mind.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
That being said, I don't see the P5 when looking at the Hanzo. My eyes lie and I'm not trained in first principles :-)
The pictures do not do justice to this bike

I think Dan referencing Linkdin and Giant sort of gets to the first principles.

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milesthedog wrote:
Cajer wrote:
I imagine they were comparing themselves against the disc P5 and not the rim brake one. I also really want to see a comparison between all the new TT bikes.


Yeah, Kiley needs to do another crowd funded test
Not his first priority but would be good

Bikes included?

- Hanzo
- P5disc
- P3x
- new QR
- Argon 119
- new Trek Speedconcept
- specialized shiv tri
- Orbea Ordu

The more I think about doing on of these the more I think it's an ok idea to find out which is The Fastest Bike yet it's a better idea to find out which bike(s) tend to do the better/best under a wide range of riders.

Doing a 1 off test tells you a ton about that rider, something about riders like that person but less and less as you get further away from that rider in morphology/positioning/storage carrying etc. The test we did with Kiley was awesome. Yet I see a test where each bike is set up for rider A then rider B as the way to go. Now you're looking at what does Bike A do under 4 riders when set up for them, or as close as each bike can be

Just need around $15k in funding plus bikes/riders. You work on those parts, I can get the tunnel time and map out how it could/should work.

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desert dude wrote:

The more I think about doing on of these the more I think it's an ok idea to find out which is The Fastest Bike yet it's a better idea to find out which bike(s) tend to do the better/best under a wide range of riders.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [desert dude] [ In reply to ]
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The more I think about doing on of these the more I think it's an ok idea to find out which is The Fastest Bike yet it's a better idea to find out which bike(s) tend to do the better/best under a wide range of riders.

i'd go further yet. if it was me and i was deciding what bike i was going to buy, i would take all the bikes inside of aero acceptability (all the bikes that i felt were likely to get me to the finish of a race within, say .05 or 1.0 percent of each other), and i'd consider them all equal candidates. then i'd look at ease of travel, ease of tire change, tire width capacity, hydration and storage, lighting and electronics, ease of adjustment, what the pursuit position is like. then... i'd like at price, and whether i can buy the bike with the parts i want; or whether i have to buy the bike with a lot of parts i don't want that i have to sell or trade in. then... i'd see how i can get it. how does it convey to me and i what condition (built? built to fit? in a box?)

all that stuff has now become sufficiently important to me that i kind of count all bikes equal that meet an aero threshold. i reckon that the real truth - my truth - is pretty fungible above that line. since i can't really know whether a speed concept or a QR V-PR or a speedmax or a P5 disc or a ventum is the best bike for me, i would treat them as basically equivalent and my decision is now based entirely on these other factors.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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1% time (which it sounds like you mean) is a pretty big chunk of time (2.5-3 min for an IM). It translates to around 2.5-3% power or 5-10W for most (faster) people. Not a small difference if we're only looking at differences in the frame set - I would imagine only the very worst performing newer frame sets would fall outside that margin in most conditions. That difference is even big enough it wouldn't be too hard teasing out that difference with just a Garmin and a decent powermeter outside if one wanted to.
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1% time (which it sounds like you mean) is a pretty big chunk of time (2.5-3 min for an IM). It translates to around 2.5-3% power or 5-10W for most (faster) people. Not a small difference if we're only looking at differences in the frame set - I would imagine only the very worst performing newer frame sets would fall outside that margin in most conditions. That difference is even big enough it wouldn't be too hard teasing out that difference with just a Garmin and a decent powermeter outside if one wanted to.

i agree with you. i absolutely wrote with precision, knowing what that time meant. here is why i wrote what i wrote:

1. once you get inside of a certain level of aero performance, i just don't have confidence in the data provided via aero testing for me. and i'm not doing that, "everybody is different" cop-out. i just suspect that if 2 different people get on 4 different bikes, and each of those bikes is set up to fit each rider specific to his or her fit coordinates, those numbers are fungible. look at it this way: what if you took a fork off one bike and put it on another. is it going to work? the bike makers themselves would scream at this, because they'd say, "we make the whole thing as a unit, and the fork integrates with the frame," and the handlebars, wheels, etc. how much more so would a different person impact the result of the entire system, if the person is 80 percent of the drag? therefore, there's a point where we're just inside the margin of error, and the margin is the body, and fit coordinates, the bars and hydration chosen, aerobar tilt, positional philosphy (as you and i have discussed), and that margin easily dwarfs (in my estimate) that .5 to 1.0 percent.

2. if i can't travel with the bike, then what good is the bike?

3. if i lose bunches of time in the descents because i'm afraid while on the pursuits, what good is the aero time i've gained?

and so on.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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FYI, in Argon's 119 disc tri+ whitepaper, they show less than 1 watt difference between the new bike and the previous (5 year old) bike.

They show less than a 2.5 watt difference with their next step down 117 bike.

Those numbers at 5h Ironman pace, ie 36km/h

I'll take everything on your list (travel....) over that 1 or 2 watt difference
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I see what you mean, but think your margin is set high. If my back of napkins calculations are correct your window is around 0.006 m2. From what I've seen that would be a quite big swing from person to person for a bike. Not it can't happen, but I would say it would not be standard.

Not that the other things aren't important. Just that if that's the level of margin one considers to not be important, you should probably just buy a decent 10-15 year old bike with old school separate stem and bars to get your preferred pursuit position and use the savings for hiring someone to pack, send, and put back together your bike for the races ;)
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milesthedog wrote:
Cajer wrote:
Yeah, Kiley needs to do another crowd funded test
Not his first priority but would be good

Bikes included?

- Hanzo
- P5disc
- P3x
- new QR
- Argon 119
- new Trek Speedconcept
- specialized shiv tri
- Orbea Ordu
- New Canyon SpeedMax
- New Scott Plasma
- Specialized Shiv TT
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realbdeal wrote:
Looks like a great TT bike. Can't imagine who would pick that for tri though unless they release a separate version. And their aero data is laughable. Not only is there zero data aside from one unlabeled chart, but it's not even faster than Cervelo's 10 year old offering across all yaws? I'm assuming p5 does mean p5 and not p5d, but they could clear that up by "showing their work" at least a tiny bit.

Let’s say it was the old P5-6. What’s so wrong about that?? That bike is still super fast and I’ve actually heard from folks that have tested the p5d vs p5-6 and the p5-6 was actually faster.

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I see what you mean, but think your margin is set high. If my back of napkins calculations are correct your window is around 0.006 m2. From what I've seen that would be a quite big swing from person to person for a bike. Not it can't happen, but I would say it would not be standard.

Not that the other things aren't important. Just that if that's the level of margin one considers to not be important, you should probably just buy a decent 10-15 year old bike with old school separate stem and bars to get your preferred pursuit position and use the savings for hiring someone to pack, send, and put back together your bike for the races ;)

if you look at some of the bikes in this article, what you're talking about is not that far off. i would opt for a new bike, but a bike that i can make *mine*. ergonomics (comfort), confidence (ability to go fast on turns, descents), and even just the ability to have the gears you want (esp on courses that have steeper pitches, like st. george), a couple of dozen little things conspire to make up the difference, and that assumes there is a difference.

and this doesn't even factor in the fact that i might be faster on a "slower" bike. i guess the example that comes to mind is wetsuits. the fastest wetsuit for the fastest swimmers is not the fastest wetsuit for swimmers a couple of tiers down, to the point where there is almost no correlation between the tier of the wetsuit and the price. the claimed speeds in wetsuits are fiction.

i'm just telling you what my instinct tells me. there's just too much squish in the calculus at that highest end and to your point i could easily see myself on a tri bike that uses a standard stem. in fact, i spend a lot of money on a road bike frame simply because i wanted a high-end frame that allowed for a standard stem and didn't have the hydraulic lines running through the stem. old school motif, but a very modern bike. a modern bike that i could make my own.

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [tallswimmer] [ In reply to ]
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Doesn't the monopost just slot into the space up front? Basically a seat-tube situation? Why is cutting required?

Looks like they had someone at Supacaz come up with the graphic designs. That thing is begging for some Supacaz Star Fade bar tape.
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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I think that was his point, that this bike is not any faster than a 10 year old bike. The addition of disc brakes has not helped things on the aero front. Engineers are having to do some serious acrobatics to even get close to the older bikes. Whenever I get an itch for a new bike I just look at data like this and keep my p5.


stevej wrote:
realbdeal wrote:
Looks like a great TT bike. Can't imagine who would pick that for tri though unless they release a separate version. And their aero data is laughable. Not only is there zero data aside from one unlabeled chart, but it's not even faster than Cervelo's 10 year old offering across all yaws? I'm assuming p5 does mean p5 and not p5d, but they could clear that up by "showing their work" at least a tiny bit.


Let’s say it was the old P5-6. What’s so wrong about that?? That bike is still super fast and I’ve actually heard from folks that have tested the p5d vs p5-6 and the p5-6 was actually faster.



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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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have you found a compatiable hydration system for Hanzo yet ? PLZZZ HELP!!( ALSO NEED A BENTO BOX)
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pjadidi wrote:
have you found a compatiable hydration system for Hanzo yet ? PLZZZ HELP!!( ALSO NEED A BENTO BOX)

Not trying to be a jerk, but Factor has a solution for those that want a Factor TT bike with all the “tri” things like a bento or hydration system - it’s called the Factor Slick.

Best bet for hydration for you would likely be an XLAB Torpedo Versa system - it has a base plate that straps/zip ties in between the aero extensions. I’m sure they sell just the plate. Or go old school and just zip tie a bottle cage between the extensions.

You’re out of luck on the bento. Only options would be to get one that velcros to the top tube but please please don’t do that to a Hanzo.

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IKnowEverything wrote:
pjadidi wrote:
have you found a compatiable hydration system for Hanzo yet ? PLZZZ HELP!!( ALSO NEED A BENTO BOX)

Do you know if the plate can be attached to a flat bar ( rather than a round bar )?


Not trying to be a jerk, but Factor has a solution for those that want a Factor TT bike with all the “tri” things like a bento or hydration system - it’s called the Factor Slick.

Best bet for hydration for you would likely be an XLAB Torpedo Versa system - it has a base plate that straps/zip ties in between the aero extensions. I’m sure they sell just the plate. Or go old school and just zip tie a bottle cage between the extensions.

You’re out of luck on the bento. Only options would be to get one that velcros to the top tube but please please don’t do that to a Hanzo.
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Yes it’ll work on the flat extensions

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(ALSO NEED A BENTO BOX)

Unfortunately, Factor did not put storage bosses on the top tube of the Hanzo. That said, we make a series of bentos that use our exclusive and effective ZeroSlip mounting system, and they fit this bike very well. Our two larger ZeroSlip Speedpacks (the 693 and 915) even have the option of offset straps that allow you to mount your Speedpack much further forward, if desired. If it helps, below is a photo of a pro with her Hanzo at Kona 2023 who uses our standard Speedpack 483. Maybe one these bentos will fit your needs?

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Last edited by: DarkSpeedWorks: Apr 11, 24 7:05
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [IKnowEverything] [ In reply to ]
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IKnowEverything wrote:
pjadidi wrote:
have you found a compatiable hydration system for Hanzo yet ? PLZZZ HELP!!( ALSO NEED A BENTO BOX)


please please don’t do that to a Hanzo.

This…..
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Great. How can i order one?
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [pjadidi] [ In reply to ]
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pjadidi wrote:
Great. How can i order one?

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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Pwraddr] [ In reply to ]
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I wish I didn't have to, but I need proper hydration for my IM ...
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [pjadidi] [ In reply to ]
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Hi - Candice here from XLAB

The aerobar setup that comes with the Hanzo unfortunately is not compatible with the Torpedo Versa. That model has brackets that fit on round extensions arying from 22.2 up to 27mm diameter.

You might be able to get away with a Torpedo Mini Mount - this is a narrow mounting plate with 4 velcro straps - but I would need the dimensions of the flat extension area in order to see if the straps would be long enough to wrap around them.

Candice Turner
CEO
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Candice - XLAB] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you Candance. After going back and forth with Keith in your costumer relations department.here is what the bike mechanic and I figured we need to do :
Use the plate (only) of your versa system. Turn it 90 degrees Shape it properly so it is straight, then use it a abridge between the two aero bars ( bolt on each bar ) and bolt the entire versa 200 on top of the bridge .
Once this is done, i will send Keith a picture so you can keep it for future reference.
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [pjadidi] [ In reply to ]
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Oh awesome- glad Keith and your mechanic could figure out a solution! Looking forward to seeing the pic!

Candice Turner
CEO
XLAB - Aerodynamic Triathlon Accessories
Dawn to Dusk - Off-road Specific Storage Accessories
http://www.XLAB-USA.com http://www.dawntodusk.bike
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Re: Factor HANZO TT bike [Candice - XLAB] [ In reply to ]
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Took xlab versa base plates and some DYI
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