The whistleblower’s point is they will fail prematurely not immediately. So you might get 20 years of life from the airframe instead of 50. If it is early enough that you haven’t done the inspections, then you have a real safety issue.
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Re: Boeing Woes [50+]
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50+ wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
Well, this can't be good ... Whistleblower urges Boeing to ground all 787 Dreamliners after safety warning
https://www.theguardian.com/...lower-787-dreamliner
The 787 has been flying for over 10 years. I think it's ok. Lol
At this juncture, with the company's credibility completely in tatters, l think many are more inclined to listen to the whistleblower than to boeing. And for good reason.
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Re: Boeing Woes [torrey]
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Another summary of just how bad it is at Boeing:
https://www.vox.com/...m-salehpour-congress
"[whistleblower] Salehpour said he had gone up high in the chain of command at Boeing to alert them of his concerns, having written “many memos, time after time.” Yet he says his warnings went unheeded — and he was punished for bringing them up. “I was sidelined. I was told to shut up. I received physical threats,” he said. “My boss said, ‘I would have killed someone who said what you said in the meeting.’"
So much for the friendly skies ...
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https://www.vox.com/...m-salehpour-congress
"[whistleblower] Salehpour said he had gone up high in the chain of command at Boeing to alert them of his concerns, having written “many memos, time after time.” Yet he says his warnings went unheeded — and he was punished for bringing them up. “I was sidelined. I was told to shut up. I received physical threats,” he said. “My boss said, ‘I would have killed someone who said what you said in the meeting.’"
So much for the friendly skies ...
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Re: Boeing Woes [AutomaticJack]
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My company makes aircraft parts for a defense contractor. Monday we discovered that the 3D model did not make the part to the print provided. Both the model and the print are provided by the customer in this case, and we are not allowed to deviate from either. Sales contacted the buyer and told him the delivery date needed to slip due to their mistake. Quality had sent the required notifications and were awaiting a reply. Yesterday we were told to be on a conference call to discuss the problem. Conversation went like this:
Customer's Engineer: We have confirmed the manufacturers facts. There is a contradiction between the 3D model and the PDF drawings. We will be looking into it and issuing a corrected document.
Customer's Buyer: Our assembly line will stop in xx days. We need the resolved now.
Engineer: I don't care what you need. When we have time to look into the problem we will issue a fix.
Then the engineer left the call.
When my team told me this story I told them to get used to it. (and I bet that way of thinking is about to infect Boeing, if it hasn't already)
Tell us why MBNA's shouldn't be allowed to run businesses without telling us that. The engineer left the "building" because the bean counters were more concerned about how many beans were used instead of whether the beans were being used in a productive and PROTECTIVE manner. The shareholder pushing for the business portion being moved back to Spokane isn't wrong, management has become disconnected from production. Boeing has become the best example of why executive should not be remote to production.
Re: Boeing Woes [justcallmejoe]
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A supplier is rightly concerned with losing revenue on a problem caused by their customer. It happens all the time in construction, design and manufacturing. If they had any sense at all, there would be contractual clauses for losses incurred that will sit with their customer. The supplier is not unconcerned with the safety aspect but its not up to them to eat a loss caused by their clients incompetence. In our industry, they could take as long as they want to resolve it, but we'd keep invoicing for the variation to contract and time consumed.
Re: Boeing Woes [Andrewmc]
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Just replying to last:
https://www.instagram.com/...gsh=eHRyajJvMzYwN20z
Long Chile was a silly place.
https://www.instagram.com/...gsh=eHRyajJvMzYwN20z
Long Chile was a silly place.
Re: Boeing Woes [BCtriguy1]
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That's pretty funny.
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Re: Boeing Woes [Andrewmc]
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/boeing-corporate-america-manufacturing/678137/?utm_source=apple_news Not sure if this has been. Posted
Interesting article, with a lot of history. Thanks for posting. Over the past couple decades I've read some similar critiques of the U.S. auto industry, like the claim that "no one at Ford or GM knows how to make an automatic transmission anymore." All farmed out. (is the claim, not sure of the truth on that one).
And Tesla is always contentious, but part of their success has been assigned to "vertical integration" - or Tesla doing far more of their own design and manufacturing than most other U.S. automakers.
Andrewmc wrote:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/boeing-corporate-america-manufacturing/678137/?utm_source=apple_news Not sure if this has been. Posted
And where America leads, Britain blindly follows. Same short-sighted, short term-ist management across most of what remains in British manufacturing (which isn't a lot). The only really prosperous industry in Blighty is Pharma.
Rolls Royce aero engines are a way down the same outsourcing and deskilling of its own staff route as Boeing, in search if the quick buck for the short sighted shareholders.