The implication was that I will drive safely and legally. If I'm not passing or preparing to turn left, I'm in the rightmost travel lane. Period. Always. If I'm going 65 in a 65 zone and there is a car in the rightmost lane ahead of me going 60, I'm going to move into the passing lane and continue going 65 until I am past the slower car. F*** those behind me in the passing lane who are speeding. Got that?

NJ law says that if there is an emergency vehicle on the shoulder (or even in a travel lane), you are required to either a) slow down to 25mph or b) move to a further travel lane. Which is safer, in your opinion, on the Parkway? What happens when I'm going 65 in the rightmost lane and there's a police car with flashing lights ahead on the shoulder, and everyone in the middle lane is going 80? Whose fault is that?

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If I don't have good riding abilities you will soon know it with the speeds I have been doing lately. If I don't post for a few weeks it maybe that my abilities let me down. Damn Rocketship that bike is.

Or by cars going notably under the speed limit. You can have 99% of vehicles going bang-on 65 in a 65 (LOL I know) and the 1% going 50 are the ones creating the hazard.

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I used to bc I was always running late but I made a goal this year of showing up for stuff on time with a little cushion. I didn't want to be the "always shows up late" one anymore. So now no, not usually, and if I do it's only 2-5 mph over.

I'm also pretty terrified of getting a ticket so no more than 5 mph over

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I do keep to the right on multi lane roads. Highway speed limit through the city is 65, rural areas is 75.

I use cruise control on city streets. Speed limit is 30, I go 30. On one of my neighborhood streets the limit is 30 and most people are going anywhere from 40-50. I don’t know what the rush is because these people will be stopped at multiple traffic lights within a mile. Speed to the light, wait, then speed to the next light and wait. Makes no sense.

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Did you happen to be riding on I-40 through Arkansas recently?

Helpful tip. Skip to about 7:30. The rest is boring....also the "clever" way to stop the motorcyclist was apparently if he's using the right breakdown lane to speed past traffic, park a cruiser across the breakdown lane.

I was actually surprised that they bothered chasing him. They stopped doing that a long time ago in California. You still get the occasional high speed chase, but they have to have more of a reason than a speeding ticket. The Arkansas state troopers apparently have no qualms about recklessly endangering the public to get their man.

I thought the trooper cutting across the median and then across lanes of traffic to block the breakdown lane was a bit risky too. Just takes one inattentive driver as traffic is slowing to rear end someone, and now you've got another problem.

Would have been easier to follow the motorcyclist via chopper, but I suppose they don't do that anymore either.

I don't know why anyone would disagree with "go with the speeders or get off the road." Move with traffic. If everyone is speeding but you, **you are the hazard**. Glad to hear you keep right at least. There are many YouTube videos of cops pulling people over for going the speed limit in the left lane... You have to adjust to the world you live in and adapt... You and everyone else is safer if you move with traffic.

My 80 year old father has a tendency to drive 55-60 in 70 mph zones. Yes, he is in the right lane, but people come up on him so fast and end up on his ass. He bitches and moans about, "all of these people following me too close...." but he is the issue. People don't expect to encounter someone driving 15 mph below the posted speed. Riding with him is terrifying. Is he a bad driver? Not really. But he's not good either.

My daughter describes his driving like this: he drives 45 no matter what the speed limit is. Speed limit is 30, he's going 45. Speed limit is 70, he's going 45. It's definitely interesting.

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Poor public policy to have unwritten rules. Either change the speed limit or enforce it.

Fine with increasing it. Here in Nevada we have a section at 80MPH.

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There are many YouTube videos of cops pulling people over for going the speed limit in the left lane

They are likely not being pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane, but for not using the left lane as a passing lane.

Or I5 on the weekend after 9AM between San Clemente and Oceanside. Happy to go 10 mph.

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And yet, that seems to be the case in much of the country. I've lived in New England, the mid-Atlantic coast (and just a bit South of that), Texas, California, and near Seattle, and driven across the country at least 6 times, and nowhere that I drove did it seem like the norm was to drive at or below the speed limit. Some places had normal speeds 5-10 over, some 15 or more, especially in areas where much of traffic move on big multi-lane roads or highway systems (not counting during peak times in traffic jams).

Of course, there are places where driving close to or at the limit is more normal, especially in and around town, residential areas, etc. But the rules of thumb for how much you can drive over the limit without being stopped are pretty ubiquitous. The only places where I have seen highway traffic move generally at speed limit speeds are areas with significant numbers of speed cameras.

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Speed cameras is what it would take. When CA put in higher speed limits on the rural interstates they said they would aggressively ticket violators. Didn’t happen. Flow of traffic is 5-10 over the limit.

Drive in any European country with cameras and no one goes over the limit. Changing lanes becomes an extra challenge because everyone is going pretty much the same speed and no one passes on the outside lanes.

Your approach to this seems unsafe and unfair. While your father’s seems to be one of safety.

I absolutely expect to find people in the right lane driving slower. Hence why slower traffic keeps right.

Also, often times 15 mph under the limit is the safe limit. Highways will also have minimum speeds. In Florida, 50mph is the posted minimum in 70mph zones.

I can’t fathom a world in which we think someone driving the speed limit or safely under in the right lane is the safety issue.
Everyone else speeding is causing the issue. They are causing the unsafe road conditions in an area where the safe travel speed has already been determined and posted.

To say nothing of the fact that someone who recognizes that a certain speed may be a bit unsafe for them so they choose to drive safely under that limit as legally allowed should be commended. Least we all want to force people to drive beyond their comforts or abilities.

That seems ridiculously narrow minded and unfair to paint your elderly father as the unsafe driver when he chooses to, by your own admission, drive in the right hand lane at a speed that is allowed.

SMH. And we wonder why we have so many accidents. Your user name seems appropriate based on this conversation.

Yes, but rarely more than 4 over and almost never over 9 over. Only one red light camera ticket since my DUI in college decades ago. And that was my only ticket before that red light camera one.

My father in law once drove us to the Denver airport in an old VW bus on a big 4 lane highway. He wasn't in the far right lane and might have been going around 55 mph. I thought for sure we were going to die, basically we were a moving chicane with traffic constantly flowing around us on both sides at much greater speeds. Probably the scariest experience I've ever had in a vehicle.

This too.

It’s good to know to stay out of the left lane if not passing. But being in the middle lane and going slower than the flow also creates a hazard. Slower drivers may be nervous etc, and so avoid the rightmost lane because traffic merges on and off there, making them even more nervous. So they camp in the middle.
Or worse, they camp in the left at the speed limit and refuse to budge.