I wish I could say I'm surprised at any of that. But I'm not.



Nor do I have any doubt there is doping in AG triathlon.

See, I kinda disagree, though I haven't made up my mind yet. What I took away from the article is that the prerequisites to doping are:
1) A readiness to cheat against your peers (duh)
2) $1,000 a month for illegally obtained HGH and EPO treatment
3) Extensive knowledge of how to regulate and track certain "marker" values in your blood (i think I got that right)
4) A willingness to inject EPO into your belly fat.

I've been in the sport for 5-years and honestly can't think of a single person I train or race with that fits that bill....... though I might just be ignorant.

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It's perfectly easily to legally obtain HGH, EPO, T. All you need is a sympathetic doctor to prescribe it and injecting it is now painless thanks to the new hypersharp and thin insulin needles. What I'm really wondering is how he was monitoring. Did he buy the equipment to run his HCT at home? If he did, that's pretty hard core. The machines are pretty readily available.

Try hanging around with the crowd that pins their season on qualifying for Kona or hitting the podium at the national and world championships. I'm not talking about the weekenders out there just to get a social buzz at the local sprint or Oly race. That absolutely isn't to denigrate that end of the field. But rather, to note that there is a serious end of the field that takes triathlon every bit as serious as this guy took his cycling. The incentive is most certainly there and the financial wherewithal is on par with what thise guy described. It's a slippery slope just like this guy described. And it makes you wonder when a guy comes on the scene and maybe races well at the local level for a couple of years but then the next thing you know he's winning his AG at a KQ IM event dropping his IM time from 11:xx to 9:xx.

PEDs are out there, relatively easy, and legal to get, even if it is a bit expensive. I don't really care what someone does until they pay an entry fee and toe the line against me. Then I've got a problem with it. This guy knew it was wrong. Look at his account of his internal battle when he knew the jig was up. The ego is a damned powerful thing.

One of the guys in our group gets T-treatments just so he can stay with the A Group on our weekly training rides.

He doesn't race, mind you. he just feels the overwhelming desire to be in the A Group at all times. And brag about it.

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Slower than you.

The fact that some people choose Ironman over their family leads me to belive that the jump to using PED's is an easy one.


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Pathetic? Yes. Shocking? Hardly.
In all walks of life people will cheat if they perceive an opportunity. We see it all the time - school, sports, business, etc.
First, it's "minor" and justifiable. Then, it spirals out of control. Next, they think they won't get caught. Then they do.

If I was blowing a grand a month on PED's, I'd soon find I had all the training time in the world to use 'em -
cuz my wife would divorce my ass so quick it'd make my head spin. ;-)

But - given the demographics of the Tri community, that kinda $ is chump change for a lotta folks.
And when you see some older AG'ers who are jacked outta their minds, it doesn't take much to connect the dots...

Around my area, I honestly don't know of anybody of whom I'd even be suspicious. There are no miracle ascendencies, or incredible upticks after a long plateau, and it seems to be a lot of the same group of folks on the podiums, with roughly the same times.

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float , hammer , and jog

Now that's pretty funny. Unless you're young and training with college kids that can't afford it, I find this shocking. Especially if you're in the M35-39 or M40-44 age groups.

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Concraps dude....you cheated to win Cat. 3 races in which nobody cares who you are.

Douchenozzle.

And Cat. 3 races aren't that much harder than Cat. 4's....I'm not buying his "I was winning Cat. 4 races and getting dropped in Cat. 3's." It isn't like he made the leap to Europe, FFS.

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amen to that.

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Is that all you've got? Are you sure?

I read the first page then becamr disinterested in his excuses.

clearly his being in his 40s and single is no accident.

beyond pathetic

Sleeping in an altitude tent is kind of a cockblock.

I was thinking that when I read it - trying to imagine inviting someone over - and their asking wtf is with his bed

 

hahahahahahahahaha

I can think of 6 or 7 cases of masters popped for doping this year alone, which has to be a high percentage based on the number of tests administered. People thinking there isn't a problem is part of the problem.

and I race every weekend with two guys that just came off their "Vacation".....

It's not hard to get or that expensive, that $1000 per mo is way over blown......the true yearly cost is less then a good set of Zipp 808's.

Go race the masters in So Cal or Co if you think your fit....you'll be hanging on for dear life. It'll open your eyes.

EPO is quite legal and quite easy to get on a prescription. It's not much of a stretch to think that other well known PED's are easy to get as well. And while I do think the percentage of age groupers using PED's is low, I think the percentage is considerably higher than it is for pro's and that the numbers are climbing among those who take this sport way too seriously.

you do know that you are responding to a stars & stripes jersey wearer, right?

and people hang on for dear life in So Cal master's races not because it's populate by dopers. It's hard b/c you have former pros and olympians like Rogers, McCarthy and Carpenter hammering it

'Former pros'...what makes you think they still don't dope?

I wasn't address anybody directly....

But I will stand by my comment that there is A LOT of doping in the top end of masters bike racing....