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Re: Ironman 70.3 Valencia start list is massive []
Ajax Bay wrote:
dcpinsonn wrote:
Where is the outrage for the # of pros or is it just when it's primarily US based pros?
3. On the number of pros, any outrage (@dcpinsonn) should perhaps focus not on numbers but on standard. If an MPro is finishing more than 30 minutes behind the winner in a 70.3, they need to have a little think, perhaps when the leading women cycle or run past (not making this a chick thing, but the normal delta between M & W for a 70.3 is 25.
Let's check back on this wrt Valencia in 12 hours (1100 CEST).
As a(n 'outrage') benchmark:
  • at Oceanside 27 of the 70 starters (38%) were more than 30 minutes behind Sanders (+14%)
  • at 2023 Oceanside 20 of the 56 starters (36%) were more than 30 minutes behind Bergere (+14%)
  • at 2022 Oceanside 17 of the 46 starters (37%) were more than 30 minutes behind Laundry (+14%).
Today (Gran Canaria) MPros > 30 mins behind Harrett/Hoegenhaug = 0 (+4 DNFs of 26 starters).
Someone mentioned 70.3 Lanza (as the 'opening event' of the European season, cf Oceanside):
  • in 2023 MPros > 30 mins behind Nieschlag = 3 (+6 DNFs of 43 starters)
  • in 2022 MPros > 30 mins behind Bergere = 5 (+6 DNFs of 45 starters).
Well here's the checkback.
Today in MPro, 70 men finished within 30 minutes of Bergere. ONLY 5 finished > 30 mins behind. Data not available on how many of the 90 started. But minimal USAT licensed - style tail. Obliquely Madsen (great run) therefore caught only 4 MPro. And fwiw only 6 AG men caught the lead woman (8 were <30 mins down on Bergere).
So the USA v European basis for any outrage (@dcpinsonn) is shown in these data. And thus, perhaps, the greater need for a longer gap between MPro and WPro in USA venues to cope with these quasi-pros.
Last edited by: Ajax Bay: Apr 21, 24 10:12

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