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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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Cohen will reportedly be on the stand next week, testifying for the prosecution. I would estimate a high probability that Pendejo Naranja violates his gag order.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [Barks&Purrs] [ In reply to ]
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Several of Trump’s bestest friends appeared in court to support him. How embarrassing for them & their families. I cannot imagine what conversations in their families must be like.

The list includes:

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) attended court with Trump on Thursday.
Jeanine Pirro, Fox News host and former judge, was in the court's overflow room on Tuesday.
Eric Trump (he’s already numb to details about his dad’s issues.)
Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, joined Eric Trump at the trial late last month. Patxon called the case "a travesty of justice." It’s a travesty of something, Ken.
Susie Wiles, senior adviser to Trump's 2024 campaign.
Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff during Trump's presidency.
Natalie Harp, an aide who prints out news for Trump to read.
Jason Miller, an aide in Trump's former campaigns, has rejoined his campaign.
Boris Epshteyn, former White House aide and Trump's adviser, who was indicted in Arizona last month for 2020 election subversion.

I'm constantly amazed at Trump's ability to zombiefy seemingly intelligent people. But all of these grifters are deeply flawed for wanting to lick Trump's balls.

Tim Scott really surprises me - ever since "I love you, Man" he has constantly embarrassed himself. I suppose he'll be the VP pick for all of his efforts.

I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [ike] [ In reply to ]
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ike wrote:
iron_mike wrote:
Rick_pcfl wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
sosayusall wrote:
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Asked about Trump's indictment, Daniels deadpans: "There are a lot of indictments." Necheles: I move to strike that your honor. Overruled.


Trump's lawyers seem to have nothing so they are attacking the character of a porn star. She's a porn star, what did you expect; mother Theresa?!

And she's a pretty sharp cookie. She's turning everything right back around on the fat smelly guy with the orange hair.

It would seem that they'd have done better to just leave it alone and say ''We have no questions for this witness''. They'd have been better of.


Glenn Kirschner from youtube (former federal prosecutor) said that when he had a witness like Cohen or Stormy, he would bring it up in his opening statement. He would say something to the effect of "We know that Cohen has been found guilty and has served time. We would prefer to choose witnesses with a clean record. But it is important to remember that he is a witness because trump chose him to work with."

Same could be said with Stormy. "We know that Stormy is a porn actress, but trump chose to sleep with her - so that's why we called her as a witness".

so i'm confused on this point:

what facts are in dispute on this front? does trump categorically deny that he had sex with daniels? or does he just deny the subsequent stuff (payment, campaign expenses, etc).

According to the judge, in Todd Blanche’s opening argument he denied the affair with Stormy. Not sure of the exact words, but that was the gist of it.

danke.

so the official argument is "i didnt have sex with her, but paid hush money to make it go away (rather than deal with, say, suing her).
or does he also deny making the hush money payment?

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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [ike] [ In reply to ]
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According to the judge, in Todd Blanche’s opening argument he denied the affair with Stormy. Not sure of the exact words, but that was the gist of it.

Something else interesting about the opening statements is that Trump's team said that they did not reimburse cohen, that they paid him legal fees. Now, there are multiple pieces of evidence that there was a reimbursement. 1) a trump tweet saying that it was a reimbursement, 2) a conflict of interest form, and 3) court documents related to stormy daniels defamation cases in California.

It has to be incredibly hard for trump's legal team to overcome lying about multiple things in their opening arguments in a fraud case (now we have the sex + the reimbursement vs. legal fees)
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [geetee] [ In reply to ]
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Cohen will reportedly be on the stand next week, testifying for the prosecution. I would estimate a high probability that Pendejo Naranja violates his gag order.

It will probably depend if Cohen violates the judge asking him to not comment on the case this weekend. If he opens his mouth outside of court then he is fair game.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [LacticacidMCB] [ In reply to ]
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LacticacidMCB wrote:
geetee wrote:
Cohen will reportedly be on the stand next week, testifying for the prosecution. I would estimate a high probability that Pendejo Naranja violates his gag order.


It will probably depend if Cohen violates the judge asking him to not comment on the case this weekend. If he opens his mouth outside of court then he is fair game.

Maybe fair game to also get a fine or other penalty. I don't know the court rules, but I I'd hope the official policy isn't, "If everyone's threatening each other in public in the middle of the trial, then it's all good."
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
LacticacidMCB wrote:
geetee wrote:
Cohen will reportedly be on the stand next week, testifying for the prosecution. I would estimate a high probability that Pendejo Naranja violates his gag order.


It will probably depend if Cohen violates the judge asking him to not comment on the case this weekend. If he opens his mouth outside of court then he is fair game.

Maybe fair game to also get a fine or other penalty. I don't know the court rules, but I I'd hope the official policy isn't, "If everyone's threatening each other in public in the middle of the trial, then it's all good."

no, i believe "naw, he started it" is an well-established legal precedent

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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [Skuj] [ In reply to ]
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Barks&Purrs wrote:
Several of Trump’s bestest friends appeared in court to support him. How embarrassing for them & their families. I cannot imagine what conversations in their families must be like.

The list includes:

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) attended court with Trump on Thursday.
Jeanine Pirro, Fox News host and former judge, was in the court's overflow room on Tuesday.
Eric Trump (he’s already numb to details about his dad’s issues.)
Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, joined Eric Trump at the trial late last month. Patxon called the case "a travesty of justice." It’s a travesty of something, Ken.
Susie Wiles, senior adviser to Trump's 2024 campaign.
Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff during Trump's presidency.
Natalie Harp, an aide who prints out news for Trump to read.
Jason Miller, an aide in Trump's former campaigns, has rejoined his campaign.
Boris Epshteyn, former White House aide and Trump's adviser, who was indicted in Arizona last month for 2020 election subversion.


I'm constantly amazed at Trump's ability to zombiefy seemingly intelligent people. But all of these grifters are deeply flawed for wanting to lick Trump's balls.

Tim Scott really surprises me - ever since "I love you, Man" he has constantly embarrassed himself. I suppose he'll be the VP pick for all of his efforts.


There is talk down here in Texas that if Trump is Elected he will make Ken Paxton the US Attorney General. If you thought it was bad before, you haven't read much about Paxton. He will blow the minds off of every liberal and progressive in the country and with Trump as his boss, it will get wild and wacky really quick.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
Skuj wrote:
Barks&Purrs wrote:
Several of Trump’s bestest friends appeared in court to support him. How embarrassing for them & their families. I cannot imagine what conversations in their families must be like.

The list includes:

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) attended court with Trump on Thursday.
Jeanine Pirro, Fox News host and former judge, was in the court's overflow room on Tuesday.
Eric Trump (he’s already numb to details about his dad’s issues.)
Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, joined Eric Trump at the trial late last month. Patxon called the case "a travesty of justice." It’s a travesty of something, Ken.
Susie Wiles, senior adviser to Trump's 2024 campaign.
Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff during Trump's presidency.
Natalie Harp, an aide who prints out news for Trump to read.
Jason Miller, an aide in Trump's former campaigns, has rejoined his campaign.
Boris Epshteyn, former White House aide and Trump's adviser, who was indicted in Arizona last month for 2020 election subversion.


I'm constantly amazed at Trump's ability to zombiefy seemingly intelligent people. But all of these grifters are deeply flawed for wanting to lick Trump's balls.

Tim Scott really surprises me - ever since "I love you, Man" he has constantly embarrassed himself. I suppose he'll be the VP pick for all of his efforts.



There is talk down here in Texas that if Trump is Elected he will make Ken Paxton the US Attorney General. If you thought it was bad before, you haven't read much about Paxton. He will blow the minds off of every liberal and progressive in the country and with Trump as his boss, it will get wild and wacky really quick.

Paxton is a nutcase, how he isn't in jail is beyond me. Texas just proves do as I say not as I do.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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iron_mike wrote:
trail wrote:
LacticacidMCB wrote:
geetee wrote:
Cohen will reportedly be on the stand next week, testifying for the prosecution. I would estimate a high probability that Pendejo Naranja violates his gag order.


It will probably depend if Cohen violates the judge asking him to not comment on the case this weekend. If he opens his mouth outside of court then he is fair game.


Maybe fair game to also get a fine or other penalty. I don't know the court rules, but I I'd hope the official policy isn't, "If everyone's threatening each other in public in the middle of the trial, then it's all good."


no, i believe "naw, he started it" is an well-established legal precedent

It appears to be as far as the gag order goes. The judge has allowed responses to comments outside the court.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [Skuj] [ In reply to ]
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Skuj wrote:
Barks&Purrs wrote:
Several of Trump’s bestest friends appeared in court to support him. How embarrassing for them & their families. I cannot imagine what conversations in their families must be like.

The list includes:

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) attended court with Trump on Thursday.
Jeanine Pirro, Fox News host and former judge, was in the court's overflow room on Tuesday.
Eric Trump (he’s already numb to details about his dad’s issues.)
Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, joined Eric Trump at the trial late last month. Patxon called the case "a travesty of justice." It’s a travesty of something, Ken.
Susie Wiles, senior adviser to Trump's 2024 campaign.
Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff during Trump's presidency.
Natalie Harp, an aide who prints out news for Trump to read.
Jason Miller, an aide in Trump's former campaigns, has rejoined his campaign.
Boris Epshteyn, former White House aide and Trump's adviser, who was indicted in Arizona last month for 2020 election subversion.

I'm constantly amazed at Trump's ability to zombiefy seemingly intelligent people. But all of these grifters are deeply flawed for wanting to lick Trump's balls.

Tim Scott really surprises me - ever since "I love you, Man" he has constantly embarrassed himself. I suppose he'll be the VP pick for all of his efforts.

Perhaps I am missing something but there does not appear to be a seemingly intelligent person on that list. Basically a bunch of deplorables.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Nutella wrote:
Skuj wrote:
Barks&Purrs wrote:
Several of Trump’s bestest friends appeared in court to support him. How embarrassing for them & their families. I cannot imagine what conversations in their families must be like.

The list includes:

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) attended court with Trump on Thursday.
Jeanine Pirro, Fox News host and former judge, was in the court's overflow room on Tuesday.
Eric Trump (he’s already numb to details about his dad’s issues.)
Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, joined Eric Trump at the trial late last month. Patxon called the case "a travesty of justice." It’s a travesty of something, Ken.
Susie Wiles, senior adviser to Trump's 2024 campaign.
Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff during Trump's presidency.
Natalie Harp, an aide who prints out news for Trump to read.
Jason Miller, an aide in Trump's former campaigns, has rejoined his campaign.
Boris Epshteyn, former White House aide and Trump's adviser, who was indicted in Arizona last month for 2020 election subversion.


I'm constantly amazed at Trump's ability to zombiefy seemingly intelligent people. But all of these grifters are deeply flawed for wanting to lick Trump's balls.

Tim Scott really surprises me - ever since "I love you, Man" he has constantly embarrassed himself. I suppose he'll be the VP pick for all of his efforts.


Perhaps I am missing something but there does not appear to be a seemingly intelligent person on that list. Basically a bunch of deplorables.

At this point I would say anyone who supports trump is a deplorable. Honestly there are no redeeming qualities, I mean it, I can't think of one quality I would want to have that trump holds.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [SWEDE63] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
Skuj wrote:
Barks&Purrs wrote:
Several of Trump’s bestest friends appeared in court to support him. How embarrassing for them & their families. I cannot imagine what conversations in their families must be like.

The list includes:

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) attended court with Trump on Thursday.
Jeanine Pirro, Fox News host and former judge, was in the court's overflow room on Tuesday.
Eric Trump (he’s already numb to details about his dad’s issues.)
Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general, joined Eric Trump at the trial late last month. Patxon called the case "a travesty of justice." It’s a travesty of something, Ken.
Susie Wiles, senior adviser to Trump's 2024 campaign.
Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff during Trump's presidency.
Natalie Harp, an aide who prints out news for Trump to read.
Jason Miller, an aide in Trump's former campaigns, has rejoined his campaign.
Boris Epshteyn, former White House aide and Trump's adviser, who was indicted in Arizona last month for 2020 election subversion.


I'm constantly amazed at Trump's ability to zombiefy seemingly intelligent people. But all of these grifters are deeply flawed for wanting to lick Trump's balls.

Tim Scott really surprises me - ever since "I love you, Man" he has constantly embarrassed himself. I suppose he'll be the VP pick for all of his efforts.



There is talk down here in Texas that if Trump is Elected he will make Ken Paxton the US Attorney General. If you thought it was bad before, you haven't read much about Paxton. He will blow the minds off of every liberal and progressive in the country and with Trump as his boss, it will get wild and wacky really quick.


Paxton is a nutcase, how he isn't in jail is beyond me. Texas just proves do as I say not as I do.

Speaker of house in Texas tried to impeach him but didn't work out. He would be a sledgehammer for Trump if Trump wins and appoints him US AG.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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Trump's lawyer spend 2 hours calling him the ''Orange Turd''. Stormy made her look like a fool;

https://www.youtube.com/...BJndkfzNuo&t=26s

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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Trump's lawyer spend 2 hours calling him the ''Orange Turd''. Stormy made her look like a fool;

https://www.youtube.com/...BJndkfzNuo&t=26s

That's comedy gold. Definitely no subtext there!

Q: Ms. Daniels, is the person you refer to as the 'Orange Turd' sitting in the courtroom?
A: Yes.

Q: Please point to the Orange Turd.
<Daniels points>

Q: Ms. Daniels, I'm curious how you settled on 'Turd'. Why not Skidmark, Shitstain, Dung Beetle or Excrement?
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trial [geetee] [ In reply to ]
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geetee wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
Trump's lawyer spend 2 hours calling him the ''Orange Turd''. Stormy made her look like a fool;

https://www.youtube.com/...BJndkfzNuo&t=26s


That's comedy gold. Definitely no subtext there!

Q: Ms. Daniels, is the person you refer to as the 'Orange Turd' sitting in the courtroom?
A: Yes.

Q: Please point to the Orange Turd.
<Daniels points>

Q: Ms. Daniels, I'm curious how you settled on 'Turd'. Why not Skidmark, Shitstain, Dung Beetle or Excrement?

Time and again trump's lawyer got owned by Stormy. I almost felt bad for the lawyer, talk about "flushing" your career down the toilet.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [Trieatalot] [ In reply to ]
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mattbk wrote:

Really? Hmm, maybe more farmland in Maine? I noticed a stark difference when driving from SFO to Napa. As you leave SF and drive towards Napa the politics and atmosphere changes. I assume it is due to less big city stuff and more about people working their own land and less reliant on the big govt.

Dude, I'd love to know where you saw people "working their own land" between SFO and Napa. The only agricultural land between SFO and Napa is vineyards. If you think the people tending those vines are the owners, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you.

I see a ton of it. Many animal farms and other farms. Plus, as you mentioned, grapes. So farms. A pretty dumb comment by you. I only replied because I originally laughed.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [mattbk] [ In reply to ]
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Headlines for this morning:

1. USA today - Trump trial is story number 2, headline Trump trial updates: Michael Cohen expected to testify as star witness
2. NPR - not covering the story
3. CNN - Top story - Michael Cohen set to testify in Trump criminal trial
4. BBC - Top story Michael Cohen arrives at court for blockbuster day in Trump trial
5. Fox News: Top Story: ‘Convicted liar’ pressed on message to Trump ahead of hot seat as prosecution’s star witness (3rd story - is a story not covered by anyone else, is about how HRC is bad)

Its really interesting that NPR has chosen not to cover this story at all, while it is the top headline of almost every publication. Also, fox news has continued to have very different headlines/stories on their coverage of the trump trial.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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Its really interesting that NPR has chosen not to cover this story at all,

NPR has covered the trial extensively, and I just typed in "NPR news" in Google, and the URL https://www.npr.org/sections/news/ has the Cohen testimony update right at the top, at least as I type this.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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The Turd showed up with 2 other turds this morning: Tooberville and flip flop Vance.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [trail] [ In reply to ]
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Nothing worse than a sad and angry Oompa Loompa.




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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]
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The Turd showed up with 2 other turds this morning: Tooberville and flip flop Vance.

Aww how sweet. Trump whined that no one was showing up to support him, and now these stooges have come out. Bless….
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]
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tyrod1 wrote:
The Turd showed up with 2 other turds this morning: Tooberville and flip flop Vance.


Aww how sweet. Trump whined that no one was showing up to support him, and now these stooges have come out. Bless….

Per the other thread about who Trump surrounds himself with, both those in support and those testifying against him are people he surrounded himself with. Terrible person - Cohen - testifying against. Terrible people looking on.

The porn star last week, IMO, the most principled of the bunch so far.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [trail] [ In reply to ]
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My statement was wrong about NPR not covering this story. But it just isnt a page 1 story for NPR. Similar to how none of the news publications have the NBA draft lottery on their home page, but you can find it on the cover of all their sports sections.
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Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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But it just isnt a page 1 story for NPR.

I see it on page 1 of both the NPR news main page, and the NPR "national" news.
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