So now we're picking and choosing which rules apply to which competitors?

Either the rules(as written) apply to everyone or they don't.

If that causes a problem with the 52nd overall competitor in an age group getting DQ'd I would argue that's probably a strong indication that the rule as its currently written is a bad rule.

If this shoe is more plush than the Prime X Strung, I’m interested. The PXS is the most plush shoe I’ve ran in, in over 40 years of running, and what’s more, I’m at 800 miles on my first pair, and they aren’t showing any signs of flattening or leaning. That was always my biggest gripe with Hoka Bondis…after about 300 miles, they would crush towards the outside of the midsole, and I felt like a bowlegged cowboy. The PXS isn’t doing that at all.

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Athlinks / Strava

IDK if it's more plush than the Prime X strung as I've not put that on. I will say that your observation of the Bondi being worn out after 300 miles is a common refrain we've been hearing from customers for the last year. It's losing them retail sales.


On a side note, I'm in the ATL airport right now and am seeing a lot of Hokas and a few alphaflys on people's feet.

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Brian Stover USAT LII
Accelerate3 Coaching
Insta

We've been selling them in our store for a couple weeks and I see this as a great training shoe for someone that likes the Bondi. Similar fit (runs Hoka narrowish - no wide width option), cushion, neutral support but an improved lightweight upper for a runner. The front midsole under the toes isn't as thick as the Bondi which would also benefit the runner over jogger or walker.

I'm my opinion it's fast forefoot rocker doesn't allow for any noticeable spring propulsion from the carbon place.

A heavier runner, those with stiff & wide feet that tend to underpronate, want to run off the pavement may want to make sure the lateral midsole isn't too soft. For a foot that pronates normally or overpronates a bit the medial midsole has some firmness. Hoka did a good job finding a balance with such a thick midsole. We find the Bondi breaks down laterally too quickly for a lot of people.

To add to the topic of a well cushioned race day shoe the Asics Edge/Sky Paris are outstanding. I think it's the bounciest but most supportive super shoe in it's class and it's not forever sold out. I would recommend though for a quick runner.

Generally a case of it depends. But Golf went away from allowing people to call in rule violations people saw on TV.

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

I got 350 running miles out the Bondi 6. Haven't had a fresh pair since, got a 7 at the road runner used sale but I suspect they were used by someone who was significantly heavier than I because they were dead in the 50 miles I put on them. 350 miles for me at the time of being 205-215 pound runner is a lot of miles. These people who talk of 5-600 miles on shoes clearly are lying or weight 120lbs.

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

So to use a golf analogy, player is going to finish 36 holes in a tie for 75th, they're missing the cut and on the 18th hole they hit a drive OB. They don't bother to hit a provisional, and instead of taking stroke and distance they walk up the fairway and play their next shot from where the ball went out of bounds. They finish the round, sign their scorecard and since they don't make the cut they weren't getting paid or impacting anyone else's results.

Would everyone in golf say "it depends" and we'd apply the rule differently if you were leading the tournament?

I seriously doubt that even if it was an amateur tournament.

we can talk about this in regards to other similar rules. So 52nd place AG should also be allowed to stuff their chest with fairings?

Chucking a pair of shoes on is not the same thing as stuffing a bottle in your chest for aero. Everyone and their mother does the former. Only people who take this sport very seriously do the latter.

It's not your weight but the fact that Hoka use EVA, which has crap longevity. I'm 190lbs and get about 350mi out of most EVA shoes like you do. But every TPE shoe I've had lasted easily 500 miles and I only replaced them to try something new. The Prime X mentioned above uses TPE and will easily last 500mi at your weight.

PEBA for racing
TPE for training
EVA for the history books

Eh, 350 is like the max on any shoe I've gotten regardless of brand. But previously it was the rubber wearing out when shoes had a lot of rubber. Hoka is just barely going to a decent amount of coverage, but most shoes rubber is very thin now.

Runner right now is Gel Nimbus 25 and it's a big time meh for me, should have gone NB More v4. No idea what FF+ Ecoblast is made from.

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

The Prime X Strung has a Continental tire rubber outsole… I can’t make a dent in it.

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Athlinks / Strava

The Conti rubber that Adidas used to use would outlast the midsole. IDK if it's the same or a formulation close to it. It was The Best outsole in the industry. Now with everyone taking away rubber from the non impact areas we're seeing degradation from the outside in due to rocks, rough roads/trails etc.

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Brian Stover USAT LII
Accelerate3 Coaching
Insta

I tried them on and liked them but much prefer my Rockets x2.

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Next races on the schedule: none at the moment

You aren’t lying. They are unbelievably cushy and bouncy.

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Favorite Gear: Dimond | Cadex | Desoto Sport | Hoka One One

I “think” the regular size of the Skyward X is a bit roomier than a regular Bondi. Not as roomy as a wide Bondi but they felt fine. I’d still prefer a wide version.

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Favorite Gear: Dimond | Cadex | Desoto Sport | Hoka One One

Do they run true to size or do most people have to half size up or down?

True to size for me.

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Brian Stover USAT LII
Accelerate3 Coaching
Insta

Agree

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Favorite Gear: Dimond | Cadex | Desoto Sport | Hoka One One