I assume since we knew they were in the air, they are detectable on radar, I assume our jets have radar, and I thought our jets have guns and can fly anywhere in Jordan if given approval. Seems knowing where they are and flying the guns there should not be that hard.

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Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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Iranians seized a Portuguese flagged ship earlier today. That's an act of war. Portugal is in NATO. Keep an eye on Barksdale

You understand how difficult it is to pickup low flying drones like this? It is not trivial with radar, especially ground based radar.

This is a best case scenario though, there were hours of warning, so you can get airborne assets that are much better at detecting them. But Jordan and Iraq don’t really have those assets. I am going to assume Israel’s newer awecs would be pretty capable at this (that is just an assumption there could have not be capable of this, but I think a safe one).

It is not like missile launches where the US space based systems and the predictable flight of ballistic missiles would be helpful.

Iran is also saying this attack means the matter is deemed concluded:

https://x.com/...XKV1ghhjJ-gpfjpVyTqg

Which makes sense. This is a pretty calibrated response from Iran for an attack on their embassy. They get to blame the US for not condemning. As long as Israel doesn’t keep poking the bear, this shouldn’t escalate.

I do wonder how much do this attack was less about actually striking Israel, than costing Israel a ton of money and reducing their supply of precision weapons at a time where their support from countries like the US, which they need to fully restock, is very weak.

In other words the message may be “the next attack, you won’t have the interceptors for, so maybe slow your roll.”

This has been in the cards since 1979, we could have changed history back then and we have been half assing for too long of time.

Could the US fire some missiles at them that go rouge and blow up the bridge between Crimea and Russia.. oops sorry.

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Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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It is a bit early but I don't see how this is not a major miscalculation by Iran. 

Global public opinion has shifted against Israel in the last month. This attack will remind the world that Israel is always a target and needs to defend itself.  "Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake"

U.S. and British will take down Iranian drones as they fly over Iraq. Jordan will take them down as they fly over Jordan. Israel will take care of the rest. Iran will look weak and incompetent. 

We can fly anywhere in Jordan without approval

Iran had to do something. Israel attacked their consulate in Damascus. No country can let that go without a response. That attack was surely executed with the expectation and acceptance of an Iranian retaliation as the cost of doing business.

Best case is that the attack does little damage but Iran feels like it’s met its need to stand up for themselves and the temperature goes back down to a low boil instead of bubbling over.

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Totally agree.

Correct, but not accurate. what was attacked was a building in the consulate compound, but the people killed were soldiers, not diplomats. The head guy that was hit was in charge of running Hizballah, not really there on a humanitarian peace keeping task.

Looks like (for now) Teheran does not want escalation beyond this, so trying something that Israel could shoot down and accept without response. The big question is what will Israel do, there's a whole spectrum between nothing all the way down to tactical nukes. We'll see.

Well they used CAPS so the USA should take that very seriously!

I try not to respond to you but seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

He makes Comer look smart.

I don't usually wade into these threads, but this might be among the top 5 shittiest responses I've ever seen...

Top 5?? That's a bit harsh. I would have said Top 3 for sure!! Seemed a really shitty reply to make.

In terms of these events, Iran had to do something given what Israel had done. It was well anticipated in that it was all over the news media that something was likely to happen in the preceding 72 hours.
Be interesting to see now what the response from Israel will be, I would imagine the USA will be pushing hard to prevent Israel from escalating things further to avoid a more widespread conflict.

Agreed. And there is an easy pattern to see here: when a LR poster is completely at a loss, or has become an endless consumer of tribal propaganda, they spend much of their time on here doing whatever possible to avoid addressing content and instead focus on just attacking the messenger. It never gets anywhere, but it's always an easy and cowardly way out.

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US UK and Jordan have all shot down drones.

Only one injury so far

The video over Amman and Tel Aviv is stunning. What's weird to me (comparing to start of air war in Desert Storm) is no AA, just missles.

The terrorist government of America is warned that any support and participation in harming Iran's interests will result in a decisive and regretful response

Sounds like Iran wants to FAFO.

The response from the US would be similar to bombing Libya except sustained and absolutely debilitating to Iran.

https://www.twz.com/...y-strikes-have-begun

Good updates

Post immediately preceding yours

Thanks. I missed that.

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yes dumb move by Iran

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Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

I am thinking Israel does not do much. I think tactically Israel is interested in rooting Hamas out of Gaza above all. Any response against Iran complicates things immensely

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

And yet, they attacked first. So ...

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.