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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [lightheir] [ In reply to ]
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Another anecdote from me - I did a century ride recently, and purposely did not turn on my Varia for the first 4 hours, as I figured I'd save it for the final hours when I'm more fatigued and there are fewer riders around.

Tons of Varias in the first 4 hours, seemed like well over half the riders had them and they were all chirping. I could just follow their chirps for cars on the country roads.

In the last few hours after I turned mine on, seemed like I saw very few of them on or chirping anymore. Yes, there were fewer people around, but it went from like everyone having them on to literally nobody except me - several groups I rode with in the last few hours - NOBODY had a functioning Varia except me. They were there - just 'off'.
Since we had this conversation I decided to charge up my old 510 and see how long it lasts. No centuries in the past week, but it has over 8 hours of ride time and is still going strong. Indicated around 50% battery left. I'll let you all know when it finally dies.

To be fair, intermittent use probably doesn't drain the battery as bad as one continuous ride. At the same time, the battery in my unit is quite old.
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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [torrey] [ In reply to ]
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Since we had this conversation I decided to charge up my old 510 and see how long it lasts. No centuries in the past week, but it has over 8 hours of ride time and is still going strong. Indicated around 50% battery left. I'll let you all know when it finally dies.

To be fair, intermittent use probably doesn't drain the battery as bad as one continuous ride. At the same time, the battery in my unit is quite old.

I recently gave my Varia RTL515 away in classifieds because it was down to about two hours. No complaints - it had a good life, and heavy use.

For those concerned with battery life, the Bryton 300L has remarkable specs. 8 hours minimum (high solid rear light), 17 hours with "daylight flashing" mode, and a full 24 hours radar-only.

I haven't validated those specs yet (but will with some ultra-distance stuff coming) - but in the 4-5 hour rides I've been doing, I have not seen the battery indicator drop from its green position (I mostly use daylight flash).

I think I've already made this point in this thread, but the actual radar performance is "good enough" for me (with new firmware). With single cars on long country roads I haven't noticed any subjective difference from the RTL515. It picks cars up at good range, and they're consistent through when they pass me. With complex situations with multiple cars, it's still not quite as good. The cars can jump around a bit on the display. But I have yet to have a situation where I did my final look-over-the-shoulder before moving across a road/lane and been surprised by a car that wasn't picked up at all. And that's the most important thing to me (false negatives). There are some false positives, usually other cyclists behind me, sometimes (but rarely) parked cars. But not terrible in that regard.
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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [fredericknorton] [ In reply to ]
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i think the name plate is somewhat functional as it also serves to fix the rails in place against the body of the saddle.

because there are fixes for trek/specialized/fizik/others? saddles, i wonder if there isn't one for selle?
or... how hard would be to 3D print the top piece selle uses WITH a garmin mount?


I did a mod for a customer to mount a varia on one of these saddles, and it was super easy. Just drilled a couple of holes in the end plate and screwed a Garmin disc on to the plate, with a couple of standoffs to give some clearance to rotate the varia/fit a bag underneath.

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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
torrey wrote:

Since we had this conversation I decided to charge up my old 510 and see how long it lasts. No centuries in the past week, but it has over 8 hours of ride time and is still going strong. Indicated around 50% battery left. I'll let you all know when it finally dies.

To be fair, intermittent use probably doesn't drain the battery as bad as one continuous ride. At the same time, the battery in my unit is quite old.


I recently gave my Varia RTL515 away in classifieds because it was down to about two hours. No complaints - it had a good life, and heavy use.

For those concerned with battery life, the Bryton 300L has remarkable specs. 8 hours minimum (high solid rear light), 17 hours with "daylight flashing" mode, and a full 24 hours radar-only.

I haven't validated those specs yet (but will with some ultra-distance stuff coming) - but in the 4-5 hour rides I've been doing, I have not seen the battery indicator drop from its green position (I mostly use daylight flash).

I think I've already made this point in this thread, but the actual radar performance is "good enough" for me (with new firmware). With single cars on long country roads I haven't noticed any subjective difference from the RTL515. It picks cars up at good range, and they're consistent through when they pass me. With complex situations with multiple cars, it's still not quite as good. The cars can jump around a bit on the display. But I have yet to have a situation where I did my final look-over-the-shoulder before moving across a road/lane and been surprised by a car that wasn't picked up at all. And that's the most important thing to me (false negatives). There are some false positives, usually other cyclists behind me, sometimes (but rarely) parked cars. But not terrible in that regard.

Does the Bryton still use the same Garmin quarter turn mount?
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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [lightheir] [ In reply to ]
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No, it's a proprietary quarter turn mount.... annoyingly since while it works just fine, I can't identify a particular advantage over the Garmin "standard."

On the plus side, the provided bike-side bit is good, and better than Garmin's IMO.
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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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fredly wrote:
I did a mod for a customer to mount a varia on one of these saddles, and it was super easy. Just drilled a couple of holes in the end plate and screwed a Garmin disc on to the plate, with a couple of standoffs to give some clearance to rotate the varia/fit a bag underneath.
This reminds me of my current Varia challenge... Good mount for a "D" shaped seat post.

My old bike had a round seat post, and the OG round clamp was wonderful. I have yet to find a mount that works well and looks good on a "D" shaped seat post. I am currently using the KOM mount, but it is not that good. https://komcycling.com/...s/garmin-varia-mount
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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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What bike/post do you have?

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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Ventum NS1. It is flat across the back, about 25mm wide. Then the front is a D-shaped curve.
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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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Check with @neat_components. They make some really clean mounts, and can probably do a custom mount for you if they don't have a Ventum specific mount already.

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Re: Trek CarBack radar light. Looks like Garmin has a serious competitor for the Varia. [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. No current products listed, but Contact Us sent.
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