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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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If Knibb races this run smart, she will settle into a nice steady tempo at the high end, perhaps more like ironman pace. Then negative split it and keep it under control the whole time, to set herself up for an easy recovery week. Probably still distance the two chasers, which is all she needs to do as the runners in the race are well off the pace and will lose tons of time on the bike..

Knibb could jog the 13.1 and win. Not even a race IMHO.


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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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Ffs where’s the front of the race?????
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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As for Knibb, really curious what the experts here think of her performance stacks up historically.//

Well she said she missed Ryf's bike record by a bit, and it seemed like a pretty fast day for this race out there. Historically she is in the same group as Ryf, Wellington, PNF, Baker, and Michelle Jones I would say..


But of course we have known that for a couple years now, or at least ought to have...
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [TulkasTri] [ In reply to ]
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TulkasTri wrote:
Ffs where’s the front of the race?????

Lionel of the top...

Also how many dudes are getting chicked by Taylor Knibb today?

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Apparently she now tied the bike course. 2:18:00 I think?

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [USCoregonian] [ In reply to ]
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USCoregonian wrote:
Lionel has a small gap even though of course we aren’t seeing it

He's going to win or die on the course going all out. He's going easy right now. Just wait and see...
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Knibb could jog the 13.1 and win. Not even a race IMHO.//

Well most of the top women are not even here, they are at PTO and ITU, so not a big surprise of the gaps. And her race is against the clock here now, thinking about that $200k at the end of the year, both in PTO and in Ironman. Of course she is not going to win this series, but with some off the front performances here and in Taupo, maybe one other race if she can fit it in, and she could get some good money in the down places...
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Tried to give Jackson some love in the pre race preview. He's not interested in moving up in distance so he needs to perform as well as possible in the biggest non-T100 half distance races to try and earn some call ups. He just isn't always consistent on the run. Was hard for me to put him in my top-3 but he would've been 4th for me.

Lionel looks great tho. They probably did enough to take Geens out of the conversation for the win. He could move up to the podium if his run is on and Long or Laundry falters.

Also how good is Knibb? Able to have a conversation with Rinny in T2. Dialed into the bike CR.
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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Also how many dudes are getting chicked by Taylor Knibb today? //

Nobody near the money places, mostly the great AG'ers that decided to race pro..

So stoked for Lionel, had a good feeling these past months that he was really getting into the best shape of his life, and the tactics needed to be at the front again..
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Almost 11 mins lead out of T2 for Knibb.....good god that's just stupid.

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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He looks very good. Interesting that he is wearing the Surpas kit.
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
Also how many dudes are getting chicked by Taylor Knibb today? //

Nobody near the money places, mostly the great AG'ers that decided to race pro..

So stoked for Lionel, had a good feeling these past months that he was really getting into the best shape of his life, and the tactics needed to be at the front again..

Are they amateurs? They have pro cards. There are Women's PGA Members that shoot better than men on the PGA Tour.

If we take the above attitude Monty, then things like the Ironman Pro Series and Moritz events don't really have a reason to exist as this sport reached peak maturity in the 80s.

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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GJ may have to beg Pat to tell Knibb to skip Yoko lol.

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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I think the broadcast is greatly improved. Not as many ads and product placements and announcing is much better.
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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Knibb would be 30th in the men's race off the bike.

Totally agree that US pros have earned their status -- standard has gotten increasingly difficult year after year since 2020. Back of the pack men are as good as they've ever been. The top women are getting better & better. That doesn't need to upset anyone. It's happening in endurance sports. Women are running marathon times that would be good for domestic men. So what. Maybe if there was more money in the sport back of the pack men could quit their jobs & train harder. Focus on that instead of knocking them.
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [dcpinsonn] [ In reply to ]
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So ladies could finish on the podium and score really shitty pro series points because of the actual deficit....obviously we think Knibb will "shut it down" at some point, but 6 min lose is going to be what 2140 points at best for 2nd?

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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If we take the above attitude Monty, then things like the Ironman Pro Series and Moritz events don't really have a reason to exist as this sport reached peak maturity in the 80s. //

Take it easy drama queen, of course the back half of a 70+ man field could go either AG or pro depending on their desires. They are not making any money today, so the same as an AG'er, but some day they might if they keep moving up. I remember when Tim Deboom was 150th in Kona, then moved into the top 100, then the top 20, then he won it and podiumed for a bunch of years. No need to harsh on these guys, you never know whoo the next long, sanders, or deboom is going to be..


And the race seemed pretty spread out for everyone, about the same size pro field as a full ITU race, but with more swim gaps..
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [B_Doughtie] [ In reply to ]
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B_Doughtie wrote:
So ladies could finish on the podium and score really shitty pro series points because of the actual deficit....obviously we think Knibb will "shut it down" at some point, but 6 min lose is going to be what 2140 points at best for 2nd?

Racing for second when you're in first by 10 minutes is a strange tactic.

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Where did Tamara Jewitt go?
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [TheStroBro] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not sure what your saying with this post.

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Only 8 are even getting paid today. $50k prize purse (7500 >>> 1k). So many good athletes not making a dime today.
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [Jon] [ In reply to ]
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This has been a terribly produced broadcast. The producer(s) haven't communicated at all with the announcers of when to go to break and when to come out several different times. The race for 1st might as well not even be part of this coverage anymore. I think this has been a complete struggle bus for coverage.

We haven't even seen Knibb in 20 mins?

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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [Jon] [ In reply to ]
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Jon wrote:
I think the broadcast is greatly improved. Not as many ads and product placements and announcing is much better.

LOL!
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [WhittleFit] [ In reply to ]
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Lionel is starting to separate but of course we need to watch Paula racing 11 minutes behind the lead
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Re: Oceanside Livestream and Race Day Posts (6 April) [drluke12] [ In reply to ]
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drluke12 wrote:
Where did Tamara Jewitt go?

disappeared from the tracker halfway through the ride, while she was in 10th place?

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