Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [kajet] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 24 3:50

Post #1151 of 1169 (1914 views)

kajet wrote:

strangename wrote:

It's not cringe. If I were to believe every video showing something saves you 10 watts, then I should be able to reach 50kph with negative watts.

This. People are quoting the numbers released by Specialized years ago in a YouTube video as if they’re gospel. Or, “common knowledge”. 😂Meanwhile in every avenue other than hairy legs we expect peer-reviewed studies published in reputable journals and confirmed by countless other peer-reviewed studies published in reputable journals… and then it’s natural for the mainstream scientific view to evolve. But hairy legs? Duh, a watt per hair, obviously!

I'd say we expect NO aero claims to be peer reviewed. If they are on youtube, they are "real".

I had this conversation with Lionel himself who immediately spotted inconsistencies from one venue to another.

"why I am .198 on the road and .230 on the track ?"

"because that .198 is with a massive cross wind while using a disc wheel and getting sailing effect. That .230 is using a CRR that makes absolutely no sense for a velodrome".

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 24 10:53

Post #1152 of 1169 (1741 views)

Ya, that's my worry about some of this aero testing. How much weight can you put into one test. So many variables it's an exercise in confirmation bias, convenience sample bias etc.

Hopefully with all the multiple tests he's doing he getting very positive trends and not contradictions!

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Lurker4] [ In reply to ]

May 20, 24 14:11

Post #1153 of 1169 (1343 views)

New Vlog every day all week long. Thanks Talbot!

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Lagoon] [ In reply to ]

May 20, 24 14:27

Post #1154 of 1169 (1329 views)

Lagoon wrote:

New Vlog every day all week long. Thanks Talbot!

Wasn't he using Wahoo trainers before?

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Lagoon] [ In reply to ]

May 21, 24 4:41

Post #1155 of 1169 (1094 views)

Talbot mentioned in the Protrinews podcast that Lionel was thinking about doing 3 full ironmans and compete in the series but that his "coach" talked him out of it - he has a new coach now?

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Nillsvdb] [ In reply to ]

May 21, 24 4:48

Post #1156 of 1169 (1084 views)

I think that was a joke and Talbot meant Lionel the coach.

"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Nillsvdb] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 5:46

Post #1157 of 1169 (726 views)

Nillsvdb wrote:

Talbot mentioned in the Protrinews podcast that Lionel was thinking about doing 3 full ironmans and compete in the series but that his "coach" talked him out of it - he has a new coach now?

There have been a lot of subtle hints about Lionel having a coach, and there have been equal hints about Frodeno, now that he is retired, doing some coaching along with his PTO broadcast team work.

I could very easily see Jan LOVING the challenge of getting Lionel to the top step in Kona.

ProTri news this week also had another hint, when they were talking about the IM Lanzarote coach who started in the AG wave, but caught up to their athlete to pace them to a podium finish. Someone said that it's kind of an isolated incident, because not many coaches can start behind their pro athlete and catch-up to be able to pace during the race. Talbot responded "I think I know one coach who could do that..." and after some brief chuckles the subject quickly changed.

Maybe Talbot can chime-in and quash this, but that made my ears perk-up. Maybe just wishful thinking after being a big fan of Lionel's for 8 years and really hoping he works with someone who he respects enough to absolutely listen to. I can only think of one person who fits that bill.

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [christianlee] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 6:15

Post #1158 of 1169 (686 views)

We need to keep an eye open in today's video. See if we see a really tall shadow or something like that.

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [christianlee] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 6:19

Post #1159 of 1169 (682 views)

christianlee wrote:

Nillsvdb wrote:

Talbot mentioned in the Protrinews podcast that Lionel was thinking about doing 3 full ironmans and compete in the series but that his "coach" talked him out of it - he has a new coach now?

There have been a lot of subtle hints about Lionel having a coach, and there have been equal hints about Frodeno, now that he is retired, doing some coaching along with his PTO broadcast team work.

I could very easily see Jan LOVING the challenge of getting Lionel to the top step in Kona.

ProTri news this week also had another hint, when they were talking about the IM Lanzarote coach who started in the AG wave, but caught up to their athlete to pace them to a podium finish. Someone said that it's kind of an isolated incident, because not many coaches can start behind their pro athlete and catch-up to be able to pace during the race. Talbot responded "I think I know one coach who could do that..." and after some brief chuckles the subject quickly changed.

Maybe Talbot can chime-in and quash this, but that made my ears perk-up. Maybe just wishful thinking after being a big fan of Lionel's for 8 years and really hoping he works with someone who he respects enough to absolutely listen to. I can only think of one person who fits that bill.

Sorry to disappoint you: it's a joke: this is a reference to 'Coach Sanders' telling 'Athlete Sanders' to get back in his box/ice bath.
And @talbot cox's "I think I know one coach who could do that..." wheeze referred to the same 'coach' Or maybe they were referring to 'Coach Long'.

marcag wrote:

We need to keep an eye open in today's video. See if we see a really tall shadow or something like that.

Or perhaps a shadowy figure who throws no shadow?

Last edited by: Ajax Bay: May 22, 24 6:21

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Ajax Bay] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 9:47

Post #1160 of 1169 (589 views)

Ajax Bay wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you: it's a joke: this is a reference to 'Coach Sanders' telling 'Athlete Sanders' to get back in his box/ice bath.
And @talbot cox's "I think I know one coach who could do that..." wheeze referred to the same 'coach' Or maybe they were referring to 'Coach Long'.

Are you in the know or speculating like the rest of us ?

You say it with such authority, I am sure you are in the know :-)

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 9:54

Post #1161 of 1169 (574 views)

I dunno, I prefer the fan fiction of Sanders getting coaching on the downlow from Frodeno while making everyone thing he's doing it himself.

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Lurker4] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 10:08

Post #1162 of 1169 (561 views)

There’s one guy in here who we all know works directly with Lionel. I’m gonna trust that guy.

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [Lagoon] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 10:17

Post #1163 of 1169 (545 views)

Lagoon wrote:

There’s one guy in here who we all know works directly with Lionel. I’m gonna trust that guy.

Talbot is our man !!

Now, if he can get episode 3 out......

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 11:42

Post #1164 of 1169 (481 views)

marcag wrote:

Lagoon wrote:

There’s one guy in here who we all know works directly with Lionel. I’m gonna trust that guy.

Talbot is our man !!

Now, if he can get episode 3 out......

Talbot ASSURED me it's not Frodeno and told me who it is. Which...makes me think it's Frodeno hahahaha.

DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 12:43

Post #1165 of 1169 (410 views)

marcag wrote:

Lagoon wrote:

There’s one guy in here who we all know works directly with Lionel. I’m gonna trust that guy.

Talbot is our man !!

Now, if he can get episode 3 out......

Almost 5 hours late and still waiting!

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Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 13:10

Post #1166 of 1169 (363 views)

Just posted 16 min ago!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHm3NNBDBvg

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 13:20

Post #1167 of 1169 (346 views)

Hoka, do you really have to let this guy pay for $110 each buy 3 pairs????? Are you stupid??? Just sponsor this guy please. Don't sponsor little fish. Spend money on this guy and that will be totally worth it.

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [dfru] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 18:22

Post #1168 of 1169 (212 views)

dfru wrote:

marcag wrote:

Lagoon wrote:

There’s one guy in here who we all know works directly with Lionel. I’m gonna trust that guy.

Talbot is our man !!

Now, if he can get episode 3 out......

Talbot ASSURED me it's not Frodeno and told me who it is. Which...makes me think it's Frodeno hahahaha.

In VLOG 3, while Lionel was running with the dude in the Arkansas shirt he said "My coach back in Tucson"...........................

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

Re: The Official, All Encompassing, Lionel Sanders Thread [japarker24] [ In reply to ]

May 22, 24 19:21

Post #1169 of 1169 (156 views)

japarker24 wrote:

dfru wrote:

marcag wrote:

Lagoon wrote:

There’s one guy in here who we all know works directly with Lionel. I’m gonna trust that guy.

Talbot is our man !!

Now, if he can get episode 3 out......

Talbot ASSURED me it's not Frodeno and told me who it is. Which...makes me think it's Frodeno hahahaha.

In VLOG 3, while Lionel was running with the dude in the Arkansas shirt he said "My coach back in Tucson"...........................

Aquabears. There's not a coach in Tucson he's working with besides Justin. 99.9% sure of that.

DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!

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