I hope I'm wrong but I highly doubt you will see it announced this week/weekend for Cali. Depending on supply chain issues, I think it will be sometime between Nov-Jan when it's announced.

---

blog

True. My LBS cannot get a 56cm P5. Quote “oversold”.

Another note is the Shimano transition to 12 speed. The plug-in is different. Basically nothing from di2 11 speed transitions over. So thats a supply problem for sure never mind a major customer irritant (ie: me!)

---

@rhyspencer

The TT shifters and brake levers are the same from 11 speed to 12 speed.

---

blog

Its T47.

Man, I was hoping with Trek World being this week we'd get a nugget....

this is good to know. I was thinking of buying 12 speed tri and do the switch with my Emonda Di2 11-speed. I ride 95% on my road bike. Of course, would need new di2 shifters for road bike and those are NOT cheap!

---

@rhyspencer

Do you mean cannot get now or indefinitely? Just had a shop tell me 3 months for a 56cm p5D frameset (Purple Sunset of course), but that Cervelo had said to "get the order in quick" as (future) supply was drying up

---

Amateur recreational hobbyist cyclist
https://www.strava.com/athletes/337152
https://vimeo.com/user11846099

 I had seen the new Trek SC disc at Ironman Mallorca, it is awesome

[url=https://postimg.cc/4YkzrYVy][/url]

nothing to order was available for P5 full bike in a 56 early last week. I do know why. Maybe just the transition between 2021 11-speed to 2022 12-speed IDK. I didn't care as not buying until I learn of the SC availability and pricing. Even then given price of these things probably going used 11 speed mechanical. My only requirement is disc brakes as have race wheels in disc

---

@rhyspencer

Why does the plug matter? Shimano has an adapter to convert old wires.

Yes BUT firmware only updates on 11 speed TT brakes/shifters. You can have all the wire adapter you want but otherwise there is not a cheap conversion option on road group from what I can tell.

https://bettershifting.com/...d-di2-compatibility/

---

@rhyspencer

I didn't say there was a cheap conversion option. I just said the plug isn't a problem

Yes. True. Didnt mean to suggest otherwise.

---

@rhyspencer

Agree, looks very sexy... However I am still looking for the upgrades.
Disc can be argued as a pro or con (weight, aerodynamics, ability to maintain and adjust, parts availability)
BTA bottle pretty much the same.
The front end we are yet to see if it's an improvement. At the top end many are now looking at custom front ends and I think a project one option should be an great.
Repair storage... I'm not sure if moving the rear storage that was pretty aero and putting into the down tube making it impossible to run a bottle cage seems silly to me.


I certainly think it looks great but when it comes to being a massive improvement I just don't see it.

There is a cutout on the aero frame bottle holder/cage that allows you access the flat storage without removing the cage/holder. You just have to take off the bottle itself. If you want to just run a regular bottle/cage, it mounts above the flat storage higher up on the downtube so you can still access the storage.

As far as upgrades, there isn't a massive improvement. The existing SC is a fantastic bike and got a lot of things right when it was introduced many years ago. I do see a few improvements though with the new bike:

- T47 BB
- larger/integrated top tube storage
- ability to run 28mm + tires (debatable if this is an improvement as it's individual)
- integrated bta hydration

---

blog

Im curious how much if any faster is it. Also the lack of integrated front end hydration is a big down side for me. It’s currently looking like I won’t replace my current speed concept with this unless the drag numbers are crazy good somehow, and it doesn’t seem like they will be as they did nothing new and radical with this bike

You will be disappointed Steve. The SLR (non-uci) version has a max tire width of 25 mm (officially). The front has proprietary mount for mounting regular bottle cages to. Also, the aero bar extensions are polygon shaped into the insertion bracket so standard extensions might not work.

That doesn't really disappoint me honestly. Where I live, I don't need anything larger than a 25mm (and I typically run 23 mm even in training) but understand where others may want 28 or 30 mm. I'd be shocked if you couldn't actually fit a 28 mm on the bike (regardless of what Trek says). I'm perfectly fine with a regular bottle bta but it does appear there is a proprietary aero bottle that is integrated into the front end. Will be interesting to see more details of that once it comes out and if there is any benefit vs a regular round bta bottle.

I'm not expecting a big improvement over the existing bike. I don't consider this an "upgrade" for me. Though the new bike appears to clean up my IM nutrition/hydration strategy a bit. At the end of the day, I just need a new bike. My existing SC has little life left in it (and shiny new things are fun).

---

blog

Just one anecdotal data point. On my 2019 Speed Concept I run 28mm Continental GP5000 tires. So, they fit on the current model regardless of what Trek says for that one.

Hey Steve, Can you tell me how the new one has an integrated BTA system where the other one doesn't
To me it looks more or less the same as the rim version

It isn’t a standard cage that mounts the proprietary aero bottle. The custom cage/holder is built into the front end and integrates neatly with the cockpit/bars. It does look like you have the option to run a standard cage and bottle like a few pros have done.

---

blog

What wheels are they mounted on?

The Bontrager Aeolus Pro 5 TLR wheels. The rear one will lightly rub on the speed fin when I stand and really hammer the pedals (so almost never) simply because the speed fin is not molded straight so I do not worry about it since it also is only contacting at the very bottom corner of the speed fin and not causing any damage or real friction.

The 28’s are so cushy on the roads around me I even started racing on the 28 in the rear and use a 25 for the front for races.

I just received an invite to an event at my fit studio that does a ton of work with Trek. Here's some of the description:

"We are hosting a very special Triathlon event in conjunction with Trek Bicycles with a few very special guests. Join Trek's engineering team, Holly Lawrence, Tim O'Donnell, Rinny, and Ben Kanute at 7.30pm on Thursday, November 18th for a special event.

This will be the very first official public appearance of a new Trek Triathlon product. Trust us… You do not want to miss out!"

Looks like we have just a few weeks left to wait.

What studio/shop is this?

---

blog