looks nice enough but disapointing after the way it was talked up.
isospeed could be good but as usual it will be back end only whereas for tri so much of your weight is through the front and more sensitive to bumps too.
top tube storage looks tidy as long as it works well
the 2 examples have completely different extensions/pad cups, suspect maybe neither is standard so we don't know what they have going on there
no integrated hydration which is easily worked around but lets them down relative to most of the competition

if its light and reasonably priced i would still be interested

Yea, a lot of nothing. They have in the past been crazy heavy, so wonder if the weight has been improved. At least it will be the first SC where the brakes actually work.

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Your links take me to local pricing so I can't check out the spec:price of your market. But I can get a frameset for $3.5-4k while Specialized, Scott, Cervelo and others are mostly $5-7k. Sounds like it's similar in the UK, and that's 50% higher.

Anyone know when Trek will formally actually tell us about this new bike ? I’d love to know the details,

I thought someone said there was an SLR TRI version...

I’m hearing November

I would say that makes it a slower bike. if you set off out of T1 knowing you have 2 hours worth of fluid and calories already on your bike without having to faff with aid stations or 3 bottles strapped to your frame you are in a faster spot than somebody without. Especially relevant for a 70.3 where you are typically only on the bike for 2 - 2.5 hours. Can also save with faffing about with bolts between the seat and the bars. If there is no hydration that is a missed opportunity and a mistake IMHO.

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He who understands the WHY, will understand the HOW.

I’m personally not a fan of any bladder solution on any bike. The maintenance of keeping it clean and just the overall pain in the ass of filling it up whether before a ride or during is a turnoff to me. Isn’t the canyon bladder relatively small in volume? Even on a 70.3, I question whether you can avoid aid stations for water unless you run regular bottles on the frame.

I like the fact that it doesn’t have a bladder as standard cages and bottles make things much simpler.

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Those who I know with hydration systems like the speedmax ands works shiv mostly keep them for races and just use standard bottles for races. A bit like using a disc wheel. Time and place for it.
I think if the go with a wider downtime that reduces the drag created by standard bottles then that would be a good move.

However simply slapping disc breaks on in and tripling the cost to purchase I think is a horrible way to go

I was also told there would be a tri version from a super reputable source. Someone who told me about the bike in Q1 this year. Though I’m a bit skeptical, of how much faster the bike might be than the current SC. As there doesn’t seem to be anything radical and they added disc brakes to it.

Hopefully the tri versions haven’t been seen yet.

So adding a bladder makes it worth $13k??

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Nope. I don’t think any of these crazy prices we are now seeing with bikes is justifiable.
I hope trek keep the speed concept affordable and if not keep the rim model they have as an option because the way things are going it’s going to continue to squeeze out people from getting into the sport.

The brakes on the speed concept I used for 3 years were great. Easy to adjust and stopping power was good

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My experience too. Maybe ppl were using narrow wheels and didn't adjust brakes. Mine has been fine.

I so agree with the poster about the bladder being an unnecessary PIA. I'd rather a bike not have one. Using a BTA and BTS solves all of that. Plus, I wonder about internal leaking or condensation dripping on the BB or messing with the wires.

Yeah I think the rim brakes are pretty good especially for a TT bike.
I also use a BTA bottle.
I am curious how big the bottle is that they have designed for bike (BTBB)
Biggest question/concerns for most will be price and availability

Agreed. I just bought my sc last December, so no need to upgrade. I do have a disc road bike, but love the simplicity of rim brakes.

I doubt the bike will be under 5. Likely 7 mid level option. Too much for me

They might go with OCLV500 with Ultegra di2 as the one model and the rest as a project 1.
Considering Canyon start their CF speedmax at 8k I could see Trek starting well in excess of that price point.
The specialized Shiv starts at 9k with the sworks with Dura-Ace at 13.5k.
My guess is we are looking at least double the price of the current rim model.
I hope I'm wrong.

So I look at this bike and seeing that Canyon and Scott have integrated a bladder into their downtube. Trek increased the size of the top tube massively and didn't integrate a hydration tank, why not? So strange.

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Are there close up pics I'm missing? Any better pics than the 2 of the sponsored athletes?

I have been told there is a top tube storage like on the canyon and a down tube storage for spares like on the specialised shiv.
Hydration they are going with a bottom bracket aero bottle that site between seat post and down tube

Most people hate trying to drink from a down tube aero water bottle............so trek goes with a aero down tube water bottle.........

I think their view is many have found internal hydration systems are over engineering and possible causing more issues with very little pay off.
By this I meantime have complained of the length of the straw on the specialised making it hard to drink, some find cleaning and replacing the hydration bladders and straws more hassle than it's worth.
The aero bottle on the frame is designed to improve aerodynamics and allow you to refill a BTA bottle.
Not saying that's why they did do it but my guess.
Also not saying I agree with this approach either.

I’ll gladly drink from a down tube aero bottle than an internal bladder.

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The existing sc is under $5k which includes mechanical Ultegra, 500 oclv carbon layup that isn’t their top of the line, aluminum seatpost, and some pretty shitty wheels.

The new bike is probably going to be offered in higher end components (sram AXS, di2), 800 oclv (similar to the madone/emonda), and much nicer wheels. While the price won’t be for everyone, it shouldn’t be surprising when you compare it to the current offering.

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Don't be surprised if they use OCLV 600 which in the schemes of things means very little.
The new bike will likely still be heavier due to the larger tubes and ISO speed.
The new frame is expected to cost more than the current bike costs as a complete bike.
Your focus like for my own personal purchasing decision is based on performance however there needs to be a buy in point that a reasonable number of people can purchase.
I think Trek will squeeze out a large percentage with this disc version.

My guess will be di2 Ultegra rather than mechanical and the Bontrager aeolus comp wheels which look better than the current ones on the rim speed concept but aren't that much better.
I expect a $1500 boost in parts but a bike that will cost 2-3 times at least more than the current one.

I think it's hard for anyone to be able to justify the continual growth in prices on bikes these days.