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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I’m running two deg 7 wedges to get 21 deg of tilt. Tilt to the extension tip is even more. I don’t have a lot of riding on it (I’ve been injured) but the few rides I’ve done, it feels more comfortable. I may have to go to a smaller tower base with the increase stack of two 7 degree wedges.

How were you able to screw in 2 x 7 deg spacers??
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [AchillesHeal] [ In reply to ]
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The holes line up. It’s close to not lining up but I had no issues getting them to line up.

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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [littlefoot] [ In reply to ]
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Hello
If someone is building a Speed Concept SLR from a frameset (seems to be the cheapest way to go about it), I've just posted a cockpit kit for sale in the classified.
Everything new (never installed) from my 2023 SLR. Details in the classifieds.
Since this is a thread dedicated to the bike, I thought it might be helpful to someone in the build process to have all these parts sourced at once and at discount..



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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [spocket] [ In reply to ]
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What system did you go with?

Post pics of your bike...not enough pics on this thread
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [littlefoot] [ In reply to ]
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I went with the AeroCoach titanium Ascalon extensions; I just loved how clean their SLR-specific adapter is. Looks OEM.
Here's a bunch of pics of my 2023 SC SLR just built mid September.

It's a SLR 7 Ultegra build Project one with Full Fade paint scheme: Rage Red > Deep Dark Blue with the logo in "brushed chrome".
The colors are hard to render in picture - looks better in person.

Here's a couple of pics the bike shop posted after the build (but before setting my fit on it and before my tinkering).
The Pro 51mm wheels will be for training.





This has been an expensive project so far as this is my first Disc Brake bike and therefore none of my existing race wheels are compatible, had to figure out a power meter solution too as I was using Powertap Wheels. I stopped counting. Especially knowing this bike likely won't be much faster (if at all) than the Gen2 SC it replaces haha! But nice to sport a new ride.

Also planning to go Tubeless after swearing for years I would stick with Latex.
Ended up getting a Stages LR powermeter on a Dura-Ace crank I sent in for 'factory install'.

First upgrade was the saddle - went with the Wove v8 Saddle and so far love it (I plan to post a review on their thread when I have a chance). It's mind-blowing light :)
Also love the built-in bottle mount. I played with it and 2 bottles is possible.



I was not happy with the Aerocoach accessories for the Garmin and bottle mounts.
With my old eyes, I need big numbers and I use a Garmin 1040 computer, too big and heavy for the 3D printed mount they provided held by a single bolt.
The extensions are quite close from each other (or quite far if inversing the adapters) and the larger Garmin did not fit well between my wrist. Plus it was vibrating due to the heavier weight.
Also wanted both the Garmin and the BTA bottle in specific spots to make the best use of the available space.

I also did not like their carbon fiber sheet being mounted between the SC adapters and the bars. Looked funny. So I made my own (larger) carbon fiber sheet that mounts between the bars and the arm cups and is used to mount and locate both the BTA bottle and the Garmin computer (see later pics).

I also designed some bits to me made in Aluminum and tried to find a local shop to machine them, but this ended up way to expensive for the quotes I got especially not knowing if I would be happy with that setup..
So I just got aluminum bar stock online for a few bucks and hacked my own using an angle grinder, a drill press and some taps;
Result below.. I found a local shop that anodized them in black after the picture for $30 each.
- The threaded bottle space is not used in the following pictures but I can insert it below the 50mm BTA spacer to raise the BTA bottle further if needed.
- The other part is to replace the first piece of the articulated Trek SLR garmin mount (made by K-EDGE) so I can mount it to the carbon sheet I made and also position the computer exactly where I want it.



Here's the bike as it stands now;
I did take the aerobar angles from the native 21 degree down to 14 degrees using the -7 deg Trek spacer based on some comments in recent videos and past ST threads for aerodynamics.
But only way to tell which is best would be aero-testing; I do have the hardware needed to go back and forth.

After a lot of indecision for a rear disc, I ended up getting a Swiss Side Hadron Ultimate disc. Same exact disc as the DT SWISS one but a bit cheaper.
(ordered without stickers). I do not have a front wheel for racing yet, I just ordered a Vanquish Pro RC 60 with the Black Friday deals.











Here's a good view of the cockpit customization with the carbon sheet holding the bracket for the Garmin computer and the BTA bottle spacer.
All screws are titanium, the whole setup is quite light!




This maybe shows better the color fade; In most pictures the dark blue appears to be black.



This bike is also my first bike that does not have 2-button shifters, can't say I like being forced to the 'synchronized shifting mode' - I do not like it so far.
I got the parts to add satellite shifters to switch back to "manual shifting mode" for the FD - but I have yet to see if I can fit them in a clean and ergonomic way to the brake levers.

As I got the bike in mid September and passed more time tweaking it than actually riding it before the weather got too cold (to my taste anyway) to ride on the roads, I do not have many rides on it yet but looking forward to next spring.

(Is that enough pictures?) :)

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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [spocket] [ In reply to ]
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Lovely looking bike, and good choice of colours. Biggest time investment for me was not choosing the fade colours, but the logo colour. I went mercury, so hoping that comes out as nice as yours did in real life.

And that front end does look super clean.

When you say you're going to add the satellite shifters, how are you going to configure the buttons to shift - normal left shift for front changes and right shifters for rear, or are you going to use the two satellite for the FD and leave the 'big' buttons for the rear?
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [spocket] [ In reply to ]
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Beautiful bike. You really did a great job on everything. It is very well thought out. I love the Garmin mount and the aluminum hack job. That is really impressive you did it by hand.

Thanks! Hopefully she rides as good as she looks!!
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [MXGimp] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, can i ask what your grippers are please?
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [Andyo37] [ In reply to ]
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Andyo37 wrote:
Hi, can i ask what your grippers are please?

Looks like he's using those heat-shrink grips often offered for fishing rods?. Here's an example below but there are several sellers/brands.

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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [spocket] [ In reply to ]
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [Duncan74] [ In reply to ]
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When you say you're going to add the satellite shifters, how are you going to configure the buttons to shift - normal left shift for front changes and right shifters for rear, or are you going to use the two satellite for the FD and leave the 'big' buttons for the rear?

It can be programmed either way. He has the extra set up listed in the classifieds.

I setup my wife’s to work like the two buttons worked. Left is FD and Right is RD. Big buttons are higher gears.
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [SummitAK] [ In reply to ]
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I'm placing an order for the new Drag2Zero .66 System. They have a 5 mm trek adapter that mounts on top of the tower base and then the D2Z base plate mounts on top on that. Seem's pretty well integrated.

https://drag2zero.co.uk/...o-66/?v=7516fd43adaa








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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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Not a comment directed towards you, but these prices for extensions are crazy. Not even a basebar and extensions, just the extensions are over $1k.
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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I looked at that too. you can use the 5mm spacer, mount their base and use there spacers as another option from the looks of it. Then you don't have funky base halfway up the tower.
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [iliketri] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah the pics above are just what they sent to me of how it works. I plane to use the 0 mm trek tower base so the d2z base is as close to the base bar as possible.

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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [stevej] [ In reply to ]
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That looks great, please post pics once you get it.

I had the original D2Z bars but never loved it. The pic on their site is actually mine. I then tried the Aerocoach bars but didn't like those either and sent them back. I have a small fortune invested in extensions now and am going back to the stock setup until something better comes along!
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Re: Frame set [Mitch@Trek] [ In reply to ]
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Hello everybody, i would like to ask your advise as follor, as on gen 3 speed concept is not possible to install bontrager duo trap, what kind of cadence sensor do you use and how do you install it, if you have some pictures i really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance for your support inthis matter
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Re: Frame set [Claudior] [ In reply to ]
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Cadence sensor for most on a bike like this would be via a powermeter. Garmin do a magnetless cadence sensor that would work.
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Re: Frame set [Duncan74] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, so after many many months my bike has finally arrived in the workshop, but sadly the mechanic buildign it thinks there's an issue. I got them to order a GXP BB to fit a T47 frame, which they did, so that I can get them to install my quarq dfour. The mechanic is saying that the frame BB is too wide for the length of the Quarq spindle.

Now I am dubious about this, and have suggested there is a need for him to double check, but he was adamant (whilst still agreeing to check).

Has anyone any insight into this? Apparently the BB came with 3 spacer tubes, short, medium and long. The short was too short for the frame, the medium fits the frame but then is too long for the BB. I do wonder if the issue is around the fit of the tube on the counter vs in the frame, but wantign to check if there are issues/experience with this. From my 10 minute google teh general feel is that the Trek frames are 85.5 which is slightly narrower than spec and uses a wider washer.
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Re: Frame set [Duncan74] [ In reply to ]
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Did you get the internal T47 GXP BB? if not the external style could be too wide for the crank.
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Re: Frame set [iliketri] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, 99% sure that's what's happened, the lbs ordered an external bb, not the internal one. In fairness I don't think any of the NZ distributors carry the t47 internal for gxp. So they didn't explicitly select the wrong one.

So looks like it may be a couple more weeks whilst I wait for a wheels manufacturing one to come. I just can't justify the ceramic speed or Chris King ones at 4 to 8 times the cost.
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Re: Frame set [Duncan74] [ In reply to ]
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I had some issues with the bb when trying to run a Cobb crank instead of the Sram Rival cranks that came stock. I ordered a Wheels Manufacturing bb that was supposed to be compatible but to make it work the cranks were not centered. I ended up getting one from a brand called Seido and it works perfectly
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Finally, New Bike Day arrived. Many many thanks to the people that have helped between initial thinking/questions about a year ago, in the lead up to ordering in October then the last weeks as the shop struggled with a few niggles.

Initial test ride and mostly good, handles, rides well.
Few things to sort:
1) the saddle is a touch higher from rail to surface than the specialised sitero on the old bike, so need to drop that a few mm to compensate.
2) the Garmin mount is rattling a bit, but that should be an easy fix. But, currently it's puttign my 530 in the exact position my little fingers want to be. So need to rethink something in terms of the positioning
3) need to change the shift mapping to get the front to shift earlier. That said the syncroshift worked better than I feared. This is my first ride on a non cable shift bike, and I have to say I was impressed. Especially being able to change from the base bar, pure luxury ;-)
4) Also need to sort out the straw length on the aero bottle, add tools to the storage pod and fit the BTS bottle holder.
5)
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [Duncan74] [ In reply to ]
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Duncan74 wrote:
Finally, New Bike Day arrived.

Congratulations, looks fantastic. Enjoy the ride!

Here’s my wife’s new one.
(I’m holding on to my 2nd gen’s for a while longer. They just feel right under my butt.)



I love rim brake bikes!
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Re: New Trek Speed Concept [DavidNeu] [ In reply to ]
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Hi guys probably some silly questions. Losing my marbles with the new speed concept.

Getting it ready for the first road race tomorrow.

1-I have a shimano Ron Aeron x disc. (This was originally on a 11speed canyon speedmax) I’ve replaced the cassette with a 12 speed ultegra cassette but for some reason the Bontrager skewer is not grabbing the thread when I’m trying to put the disc on the bike. I can see the part of the hub that connects to the frame where the thread is semi - circular and the Bontrager is circular. I am assuming this is not compatible as it was 11 speed or something else?

2-I have attached an image below of the tri pads. There are 2 screws - am I right to assume there should be 4 as there is a good bit of movement on the pads?

3-the front wheel skewer no matter how I try to engage the thread it ends up in the most un-aero position. Is this normal or what am I doing wrong?
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